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  • IvorythumperI Ivorythumper

    @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

    Trump does not talk about the vaccine or anymore, neither can the Republicans.

    The don't need to talk about it -- Biden and the Democrats are the ones who rejected the vaccines while Trump was president, and then suddenly accepted it once it was politically advantageous for them to use centralized power (as all leftists do) to force compliance.

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    @ivorythumper said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

    @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

    Trump does not talk about the vaccine or anymore, neither can the Republicans.

    The don't need to talk about it -- Biden and the Democrats are the ones who rejected the vaccines while Trump was president, and then suddenly accepted it once it was politically advantageous for them to use centralized power (as all leftists do) to force compliance.

    Yes - and STILL more people died since Biden became resident than did when Trump was in office, the Biden administration has blocked the availability of therapeutic drugs, and have created a mess regarding testing.

    Ax keeps trying to save Biden's and the democrats' asses.... it's too late for that.

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      https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3835

      “Among Republicans, a slight majority (52 percent) say Pence's view [on whether the Vice President could have overturned the 2020 presidential election] is closer in line to their way of thinking, while 36 percent say Trump's view is closer in line to their way of thinking.”

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        Still chokin' that same chicken, eh?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/20/wisconsin-republicans-trump-00010378

          The Wisconsin GOP is fighting within itself, with a primary candidate whose campaign is built around the belief that the 2020 presidential election result can still be overturned.

          The upheaval in Wisconsin is, in part, a reflection of primary politics that are unusually contentious nearly everywhere this year. And it’s an expression of near-universal anger among rank-and-file Republicans about Donald Trump’s defeat in 2020. But the rancor in Wisconsin is distinct in one important way. Unlike in some other states, such as Georgia and Arizona, activists here are not only repudiating their party’s entrenched elected officials, but the actual party itself.

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            https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/02/27/barr-trump-2024/

            Former attorney general William P. Barr says in a new book that the prospect of Donald Trump running for president again is “dismaying” and urges the Republican Party to “look forward” to other candidates, concluding after a searing, behind-the-scenes account of his time in the president’s Cabinet that Trump is not the right man to lead the country.
            .
            
In the book, “One Damn Thing After Another,” Barr takes shot after shot at Trump, especially over his leadership during the coronavirus pandemic and his false claims that the election was stolen from him. Barr, who had a famous falling-out with Trump late in his presidency, writes that Trump’s “constant bellicosity diminishes him and the office,” and that in the final months of the administration, he came to realize that “Trump cared only about one thing: himself. Country and principle took second place.”
            ...

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              https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/23/trump-rescinds-mo-brooks-senate-endorsement-00019588

              “… Donald Trump on Wednesday rescinded his endorsement of Alabama Senate candidate Rep. Mo Brooks, citing comments by the House Republican that the results of the 2020 election cannot be overturned.“

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/23/trump-rescinds-mo-brooks-senate-endorsement-00019588

                “… Donald Trump on Wednesday rescinded his endorsement of Alabama Senate candidate Rep. Mo Brooks, citing comments by the House Republican that the results of the 2020 election cannot be overturned.“

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                @Axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/23/trump-rescinds-mo-brooks-senate-endorsement-00019588

                “… Donald Trump on Wednesday rescinded his endorsement of Alabama Senate candidate Rep. Mo Brooks, citing comments by the House Republican that the results of the 2020 election cannot be overturned.“

                Narcissistic Personality Disorder

                .....is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism.

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                  What the Brooks-Trump Embarrassment Is Showing Republicans

                  https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/03/24/gop-move-beyond-trump-2024-00019988

                  Donald Trump endorsed Rep. Mo Brooks on the presumption that Brooks was a faithful acolyte without scruple — for which, to be fair, there was considerable evidence — and then when Brooks faltered in the polls, unendorsed him in humiliating fashion.

                  Brooks responded with a statement about how Trump had pressured him to support throwing Joe Biden out of office, reinstating the former president, and holding a new presidential special election. To his minimal credit, Brooks didn’t bend to Trump’s demands. It raises the question, though, of why he was touting — indeed, making the main feature of his candidacy — the endorsement of a man who urged him to back these feverishly outlandish measures?

                  Such is the debacle in Alabama that it’s hard to know who looks worse — the endorser without an ounce of loyalty or the endorsee without an ounce of self-respect.

                  …

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                    Still angry over 2020, Trump returns to Georgia seeking payback
                    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/still-angry-over-2020-trump-returns-georgia-seeking-payback-2022-03-26/

                    “Trump has invested significant political capital in Georgia, endorsing a slate of statewide candidates in an effort to oust Governor Brian Kemp and his allies for failing to reverse the presidential results two years ago.”

                    Yeap, Trump is still playing king-maker in the GOP based on who he believes supports his narrative on the 2020 general election.

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      @Axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                      https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/23/trump-rescinds-mo-brooks-senate-endorsement-00019588

                      “… Donald Trump on Wednesday rescinded his endorsement of Alabama Senate candidate Rep. Mo Brooks, citing comments by the House Republican that the results of the 2020 election cannot be overturned.“

                      Narcissistic Personality Disorder

                      .....is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism.

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                      @taiwan_girl said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                      @Axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                      https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/23/trump-rescinds-mo-brooks-senate-endorsement-00019588

                      “… Donald Trump on Wednesday rescinded his endorsement of Alabama Senate candidate Rep. Mo Brooks, citing comments by the House Republican that the results of the 2020 election cannot be overturned.“

                      Narcissistic Personality Disorder

                      .....is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism.

                      👆

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                        https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-pennsylvania-idUSKCN2M10IX

                        Trump endorses Dr. Oz for U.S. Senate seat in Pennsylvania. (Previously, Trump endorsed Sean Parnell for the same seat. "Parnell suspended his campaign in November 2021 after his estranged wife alleged physical abuse and he lost a battle over the custody of his three children.")

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                          https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjb59b/trump-endorses-dr-oz-pennsylvania

                          …
                          Trump’s endorsement touted Mehmet Oz’s books and television show, and said that “women, in particular, are drawn to Oz for his advice and counsel.” —portraying this quality as one that would help Oz win the election.
                          …

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                            https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/trump-backed-house-candidate-removed-ballot-tenn-republicans-rcna25039

                            The Tennessee Republican Party voted Tuesday to remove former State Department spokesperson Morgan Ortagus and two other people from the August primary ballot in the state's 5th Congressional District.
                            ...
                            The vote marked the culmination of months of effort by both GOP legislators and activists to boot Ortagus because she had only recently moved to the state. She was endorsed by former President Donald Trump.

                            Trump's "complete and total endorsement" could not save her.

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                              She didn't meet the qualifications set out. They followed the rules. Same think happened in Iowa where a Democrat candidate for Senate was disqualified because they didn't have the required number of signatures on the petition for candidacy.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG George K

                                She didn't meet the qualifications set out. They followed the rules. Same think happened in Iowa where a Democrat candidate for Senate was disqualified because they didn't have the required number of signatures on the petition for candidacy.

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                                @George-K said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                She didn't meet the qualifications set out. They followed the rules.

                                Yes, Trump did not do enough homework before endorsing this unqualified candidate.

                                Same think happened in Iowa where a Democrat candidate for Senate was disqualified because they didn't have the required number of signatures on the petition for candidacy.

                                Has said Iowa candidate been endorsed by any current or former Democratic President?

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                                  https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/21/mccarthy-tape-trump-jan6-00027122

                                  A tape recording surfaced exposing Rep. McCarthy for having said that he would advise Trump to resign post Jan.6 Capitol riot. That appears to have stunted the GOP about whether to support McCarthy for Speakership if the the GOP were to take control of the House comes 2023. It looks like the Republicans are waiting for Trump to tell them what to do about this.

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                                    From my opinion, there are three type of people in the Republican party now

                                    33% have severe TDS (Trump Deification Syndrome)
                                    43% are afraid of President Trump and their decisions and talking points will change based on how President Trump reacts
                                    23% understand the damage being caused by having President Trump continue to be the "face" of the Republic party. But, they are currently in the minority, so their opinions do not be that strong among the rest of the party

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                                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                      From my opinion, there are three type of people in the Republican party now

                                      33% have severe TDS (Trump Deification Syndrome)
                                      43% are afraid of President Trump and their decisions and talking points will change based on how President Trump reacts
                                      23% understand the damage being caused by having President Trump continue to be the "face" of the Republic party. But, they are currently in the minority, so their opinions do not be that strong among the rest of the party

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                                      @taiwan_girl said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                      From my opinion, there are three type of people in the Republican party now

                                      33% have severe TDS (Trump Deification Syndrome)
                                      43% are afraid of President Trump and their decisions and talking points will change based on how President Trump reacts
                                      23% understand the damage being caused by having President Trump continue to be the "face" of the Republic party. But, they are currently in the minority, so their opinions do not be that strong among the rest of the party

                                      Please show your work for full credit. No calculators allowed.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        @taiwan_girl said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                        From my opinion, there are three type of people in the Republican party now

                                        33% have severe TDS (Trump Deification Syndrome)
                                        43% are afraid of President Trump and their decisions and talking points will change based on how President Trump reacts
                                        23% understand the damage being caused by having President Trump continue to be the "face" of the Republic party. But, they are currently in the minority, so their opinions do not be that strong among the rest of the party

                                        Please show your work for full credit. No calculators allowed.

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                                        @Horace said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                        @taiwan_girl said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                        From my opinion, there are three type of people in the Republican party now

                                        33% have severe TDS (Trump Deification Syndrome)
                                        43% are afraid of President Trump and their decisions and talking points will change based on how President Trump reacts
                                        23% understand the damage being caused by having President Trump continue to be the "face" of the Republic party. But, they are currently in the minority, so their opinions do not be that strong among the rest of the party

                                        Please show your work for full credit. No calculators allowed.

                                        555 I looked at all the members of coffee room, broke them into democrats and republicans and then did a scientific analysis to come up with the rankings!!

                                        (Actually, I did try and rank people in the previous coffee room on their politics I cant find the forum thread however at the moment)

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                                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                          @Horace said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                          @taiwan_girl said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                          From my opinion, there are three type of people in the Republican party now

                                          33% have severe TDS (Trump Deification Syndrome)
                                          43% are afraid of President Trump and their decisions and talking points will change based on how President Trump reacts
                                          23% understand the damage being caused by having President Trump continue to be the "face" of the Republic party. But, they are currently in the minority, so their opinions do not be that strong among the rest of the party

                                          Please show your work for full credit. No calculators allowed.

                                          555 I looked at all the members of coffee room, broke them into democrats and republicans and then did a scientific analysis to come up with the rankings!!

                                          (Actually, I did try and rank people in the previous coffee room on their politics I cant find the forum thread however at the moment)

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                                          @taiwan_girl said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                          @Horace said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                          @taiwan_girl said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                          From my opinion, there are three type of people in the Republican party now

                                          33% have severe TDS (Trump Deification Syndrome)
                                          43% are afraid of President Trump and their decisions and talking points will change based on how President Trump reacts
                                          23% understand the damage being caused by having President Trump continue to be the "face" of the Republic party. But, they are currently in the minority, so their opinions do not be that strong among the rest of the party

                                          Please show your work for full credit. No calculators allowed.

                                          555 I looked at all the members of coffee room, broke them into democrats and republicans and then did a scientific analysis to come up with the rankings!!

                                          (Actually, I did try and rank people in the previous coffee room on their politics I cant find the forum thread however at the moment)

                                          I remember that thread. You were spot on for almost everybody, except me. I am in the perfect middle.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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