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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    Axtremus
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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/18/mike-pence-heckled-traitor-faith-freedom-conference/7746795002/

    Mike Pence booed, called traitor at conservative Christian conference

    For @Mik and anyone else who like to believe that Trump supporters support Trump as a matter of policy rather than as a matter of personality, this crowd who booed Pence do not appear to fit this categorization. There is no reason to believe that any one who supports Trump's policy rather than Trump the person would boo Pence or call Pence a traitor.

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      @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

      @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

      @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

      Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.

      Easy ...

      Any one can give any one a cell phone. Any one can buy a cell phone.

      "ID," the sort that the you'd deem necessary to prove voting eligibility, can only be issued by government entities.

      ID is hard to get. Okay then. I believe you. For me it’s the opposite. I can’t function without ID.

      I agree with this. In the US today, it is weird that a significant amount of people would not or cannot get an ID. If this were rural India, okay, there are some barriers. But in the US????

      Of course there are some people, but I believe that for some reason or another (mental issues, etc.), they do not want to get an ID. But for everyone else, there really is not a excuse.

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      Larry
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      #144

      @taiwan_girl

      The notion that it's difficult to get an ID in the US is ridiculous. When one gets their information purely from the media, one actually believes that. But when you talk directly to the people they claim have difficulty getting ID'S THEY every single one will tell you it's not true, and then show you their ID. That's the trouble with basing your opinions on what you read - you end up believing the shit promoted by the Left.

      To believe a lot of people have difficulty getting an ID means, just a tiny list....

      1. Black people can't go to a hospital
      2. Black people can't get a checking account or use the banking system
      3. Black people aren't allowed to drive a car
      4. Black people aren't allowed to get bloodwork done
      5. Black people arent allowed to do much of anything....

      Black people are insulted by the notion that they are too stupid to go get an ID. They are insulted by the racist logic behind it, and many see it for what it is - the same attitude the democrats had and used to justify enslaving them.

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/18/mike-pence-heckled-traitor-faith-freedom-conference/7746795002/

        Mike Pence booed, called traitor at conservative Christian conference

        For @Mik and anyone else who like to believe that Trump supporters support Trump as a matter of policy rather than as a matter of personality, this crowd who booed Pence do not appear to fit this categorization. There is no reason to believe that any one who supports Trump's policy rather than Trump the person would boo Pence or call Pence a traitor.

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        Loki
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        #145

        @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

        https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/18/mike-pence-heckled-traitor-faith-freedom-conference/7746795002/

        Mike Pence booed, called traitor at conservative Christian conference

        For @Mik and anyone else who like to believe that Trump supporters support Trump as a matter of policy rather than as a matter of personality, this crowd who booed Pence do not appear to fit this categorization. There is no reason to believe that any one who supports Trump's policy rather than Trump the person would boo Pence or call Pence a traitor.

        Ax. I am calling bullshit on this and you drank the fake news kool aid. Someone heckled and there were some boos but overwhelming the crowd was polite and the cheers greatly exceeded the boos.

        Prove me wrong or take it back.

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        • L Loki

          @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

          https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/18/mike-pence-heckled-traitor-faith-freedom-conference/7746795002/

          Mike Pence booed, called traitor at conservative Christian conference

          For @Mik and anyone else who like to believe that Trump supporters support Trump as a matter of policy rather than as a matter of personality, this crowd who booed Pence do not appear to fit this categorization. There is no reason to believe that any one who supports Trump's policy rather than Trump the person would boo Pence or call Pence a traitor.

          Ax. I am calling bullshit on this and you drank the fake news kool aid. Someone heckled and there were some boos but overwhelming the crowd was polite and the cheers greatly exceeded the boos.

          Prove me wrong or take it back.

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          Copper
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          #146

          @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

          Prove me wrong or take it back.

          Don't worry about that.

          He is real good of circling back to correct any errors. As I type this I assume he has already done it.

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          • KlausK Online
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            Actually, I don't quite the point about requiring an ID to vote either.

            I know of no other country where you can vote without an ID. Over here, every adult must carry an ID with him or her basically whenever he or she leaves the house. It's needed for a million things. And of course you can't vote without it - how do you want to guarantee a fair election if you don't check IDs?

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            • KlausK Klaus

              Actually, I don't quite the point about requiring an ID to vote either.

              I know of no other country where you can vote without an ID. Over here, every adult must carry an ID with him or her basically whenever he or she leaves the house. It's needed for a million things. And of course you can't vote without it - how do you want to guarantee a fair election if you don't check IDs?

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              Loki
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              #148

              @klaus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

              Actually, I don't quite the point about requiring an ID to vote either.

              I know of no other country where you can vote without an ID. Over here, every adult must carry an ID with him or her basically whenever he or she leaves the house. It's needed for a million things. And of course you can't vote without it - how do you want to guarantee a fair election if you don't check IDs?

              We have a myth in the US that people actually believe that you can function without ID. It’s BS that has quite a following.

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              • KlausK Klaus

                Actually, I don't quite the point about requiring an ID to vote either.

                I know of no other country where you can vote without an ID. Over here, every adult must carry an ID with him or her basically whenever he or she leaves the house. It's needed for a million things. And of course you can't vote without it - how do you want to guarantee a fair election if you don't check IDs?

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                @klaus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                Actually, I don't quite the point about requiring an ID to vote either.

                I know of no other country where you can vote without an ID. Over here, every adult must carry an ID with him or her basically whenever he or she leaves the house. It's needed for a million things. And of course you can't vote without it - how do you want to guarantee a fair election if you don't check IDs?

                I don’t understand either. How are people kept from voting multiple times if they don’t have ID? How are age restrictions or citizenship restrictions or felon restrictions enforced?

                Education is extremely important.

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                • CopperC Offline
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                  Copper
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                  #150

                  I think you all understand.

                  Having the ID makes it more difficult to cheat.

                  Anti-ID people want to cheat.

                  Nobody can name even one person who has been unable to vote because of an ID requirement.

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                    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/25/pence-trump-jan-6-496237

                    'Almost no idea more un-American': Pence breaks with Trump on Jan. 6

                    Former Vice President Mike Pence on Thursday offered his most forceful rejection yet of former President Donald Trump’s effort to overturn the 2020 election on Jan. 6, but declined to directly criticize Trump by name or assign him any blame for inciting the deadly Capitol attack.

                    Instead, Pence — speaking at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, Calif. — insisted he was not constitutionally empowered to reverse the election results when he presided over the counting of electoral votes in Congress in January. Trump had urged him to do so in the hours before the former president’s supporters stormed the Capitol.
                    …

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                      https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/statement-by-donald-j-trump-45th-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-06.28.21

                      Statement by Donald J. Trump:

                      Had Mitch McConnell fought for the Presidency like he should have, there would right now be Presidential Vetoes on all of the phased Legislation that he has proven to be incapable of stopping. Not to mention, he lost two Senatorial seats in Georgia, making the Republicans the Minority in the Senate. He never fought for the White House and blew it for the Country. Too bad I backed him in Kentucky, he would have been primaried and lost! Based on press reports, he convinced his buddy, Bill Barr, to get the corrupt (based on massive amounts of evidence that the Fake News refuses to mention!) election done, over with, and sealed for Biden, ASAP!

                      Trump blames Mitch McConnell and Bill Barr for his loss. What a sore loser. Sad!

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
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                        #153

                        And you're fixated on Trump.

                        More sadder.😭 😭 😭

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          Axtremus
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                          Another instance of the state GOP turning against a Trump supporter for not supporting Trump enough:
                          https://www.thedailybeast.com/oklahoma-gop-turns-on-sen-james-lankford-for-not-worshipping-trump-enough

                          This is, again, another instance about support for Trump the person, not about Trump’s policies.

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                          • AxtremusA Axtremus

                            Another instance of the state GOP turning against a Trump supporter for not supporting Trump enough:
                            https://www.thedailybeast.com/oklahoma-gop-turns-on-sen-james-lankford-for-not-worshipping-trump-enough

                            This is, again, another instance about support for Trump the person, not about Trump’s policies.

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                            Loki
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                            @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                            Another instance of the state GOP turning against a Trump supporter for not supporting Trump enough:
                            https://www.thedailybeast.com/oklahoma-gop-turns-on-sen-james-lankford-for-not-worshipping-trump-enough

                            This is, again, another instance about support for Trump the person, not about Trump’s policies.

                            I don’t think the state GOP endorsed Lankford’s opponent. Can you clarify that Ax. Maybe you can help the daily beast get a more accurate article.

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                              @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                              Another instance of the state GOP turning against a Trump supporter for not supporting Trump enough:
                              https://www.thedailybeast.com/oklahoma-gop-turns-on-sen-james-lankford-for-not-worshipping-trump-enough

                              This is, again, another instance about support for Trump the person, not about Trump’s policies.

                              I'd a lot rather have Trump supporters capable of disagreeing than a bunch of sheep like you who would go along with literally anything your suck ass democrat party tells you to go along with.

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                                @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                Another instance of the state GOP turning against a Trump supporter for not supporting Trump enough:
                                https://www.thedailybeast.com/oklahoma-gop-turns-on-sen-james-lankford-for-not-worshipping-trump-enough

                                This is, again, another instance about support for Trump the person, not about Trump’s policies.

                                I don’t think the state GOP endorsed Lankford’s opponent. Can you clarify that Ax. Maybe you can help the daily beast get a more accurate article.

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                                Axtremus
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                                @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                I don’t think the state GOP endorsed Lankford’s opponent. Can you clarify that Ax. Maybe you can help the daily beast get a more accurate article.

                                The chairman of the Oklahoma Republican Party, John Bennett endorsed Lankford’s opponent.

                                https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/fight-over-trump-loyalty-okla-gop-chairman-endorses-sen-lankford-n1273269

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                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                  I don’t think the state GOP endorsed Lankford’s opponent. Can you clarify that Ax. Maybe you can help the daily beast get a more accurate article.

                                  The chairman of the Oklahoma Republican Party, John Bennett endorsed Lankford’s opponent.

                                  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/fight-over-trump-loyalty-okla-gop-chairman-endorses-sen-lankford-n1273269

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                                  Loki
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                                  @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                  @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                  I don’t think the state GOP endorsed Lankford’s opponent. Can you clarify that Ax. Maybe you can help the daily beast get a more accurate article.

                                  The chairman of the Oklahoma Republican Party, John Bennett endorsed Lankford’s opponent.

                                  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/fight-over-trump-loyalty-okla-gop-chairman-endorses-sen-lankford-n1273269

                                  As an individual not as party chair, correct?

                                  Now why was it so hard for the daily beast to get that right?

                                  So to conclude, the state GOP of Oklahoma did not endorse Lankdords opponent and therefore is MISLEADING.

                                  But you are safe Ax because that will never keep up with the viral spread.

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                                    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/19/pence-flatlines-2024-499919

                                    No supporting for Pence 2024.

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                                      Anyone who would use the word "whither" in any way has to be a pretentious little prick.

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                                        https://www.newsweek.com/arizona-gop-lawmaker-booed-off-stage-trump-protect-our-elections-rally-1612845

                                        “Arizona State Sen. Michelle Ugenti-Rita was booed off stage at a rally featuring former President Donald Trump.

                                        Ugenti-Rita, a Republican, was immediately met with a chorus of loud boos after taking the stage at a "Protect Our Elections" rally hosted by Turning Point Action in Phoenix on Saturday.”

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