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Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss

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  • KlausK Klaus

    Actually, I don't quite the point about requiring an ID to vote either.

    I know of no other country where you can vote without an ID. Over here, every adult must carry an ID with him or her basically whenever he or she leaves the house. It's needed for a million things. And of course you can't vote without it - how do you want to guarantee a fair election if you don't check IDs?

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    @klaus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

    Actually, I don't quite the point about requiring an ID to vote either.

    I know of no other country where you can vote without an ID. Over here, every adult must carry an ID with him or her basically whenever he or she leaves the house. It's needed for a million things. And of course you can't vote without it - how do you want to guarantee a fair election if you don't check IDs?

    We have a myth in the US that people actually believe that you can function without ID. It’s BS that has quite a following.

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    • KlausK Klaus

      Actually, I don't quite the point about requiring an ID to vote either.

      I know of no other country where you can vote without an ID. Over here, every adult must carry an ID with him or her basically whenever he or she leaves the house. It's needed for a million things. And of course you can't vote without it - how do you want to guarantee a fair election if you don't check IDs?

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      @klaus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

      Actually, I don't quite the point about requiring an ID to vote either.

      I know of no other country where you can vote without an ID. Over here, every adult must carry an ID with him or her basically whenever he or she leaves the house. It's needed for a million things. And of course you can't vote without it - how do you want to guarantee a fair election if you don't check IDs?

      I don’t understand either. How are people kept from voting multiple times if they don’t have ID? How are age restrictions or citizenship restrictions or felon restrictions enforced?

      Education is extremely important.

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        I think you all understand.

        Having the ID makes it more difficult to cheat.

        Anti-ID people want to cheat.

        Nobody can name even one person who has been unable to vote because of an ID requirement.

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          https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/25/pence-trump-jan-6-496237

          'Almost no idea more un-American': Pence breaks with Trump on Jan. 6

          Former Vice President Mike Pence on Thursday offered his most forceful rejection yet of former President Donald Trump’s effort to overturn the 2020 election on Jan. 6, but declined to directly criticize Trump by name or assign him any blame for inciting the deadly Capitol attack.

          Instead, Pence — speaking at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, Calif. — insisted he was not constitutionally empowered to reverse the election results when he presided over the counting of electoral votes in Congress in January. Trump had urged him to do so in the hours before the former president’s supporters stormed the Capitol.
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            https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/statement-by-donald-j-trump-45th-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-06.28.21

            Statement by Donald J. Trump:

            Had Mitch McConnell fought for the Presidency like he should have, there would right now be Presidential Vetoes on all of the phased Legislation that he has proven to be incapable of stopping. Not to mention, he lost two Senatorial seats in Georgia, making the Republicans the Minority in the Senate. He never fought for the White House and blew it for the Country. Too bad I backed him in Kentucky, he would have been primaried and lost! Based on press reports, he convinced his buddy, Bill Barr, to get the corrupt (based on massive amounts of evidence that the Fake News refuses to mention!) election done, over with, and sealed for Biden, ASAP!

            Trump blames Mitch McConnell and Bill Barr for his loss. What a sore loser. Sad!

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              And you're fixated on Trump.

              More sadder.😭 😭 😭

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Another instance of the state GOP turning against a Trump supporter for not supporting Trump enough:
                https://www.thedailybeast.com/oklahoma-gop-turns-on-sen-james-lankford-for-not-worshipping-trump-enough

                This is, again, another instance about support for Trump the person, not about Trump’s policies.

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  Another instance of the state GOP turning against a Trump supporter for not supporting Trump enough:
                  https://www.thedailybeast.com/oklahoma-gop-turns-on-sen-james-lankford-for-not-worshipping-trump-enough

                  This is, again, another instance about support for Trump the person, not about Trump’s policies.

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                  @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                  Another instance of the state GOP turning against a Trump supporter for not supporting Trump enough:
                  https://www.thedailybeast.com/oklahoma-gop-turns-on-sen-james-lankford-for-not-worshipping-trump-enough

                  This is, again, another instance about support for Trump the person, not about Trump’s policies.

                  I don’t think the state GOP endorsed Lankford’s opponent. Can you clarify that Ax. Maybe you can help the daily beast get a more accurate article.

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                    @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                    Another instance of the state GOP turning against a Trump supporter for not supporting Trump enough:
                    https://www.thedailybeast.com/oklahoma-gop-turns-on-sen-james-lankford-for-not-worshipping-trump-enough

                    This is, again, another instance about support for Trump the person, not about Trump’s policies.

                    I'd a lot rather have Trump supporters capable of disagreeing than a bunch of sheep like you who would go along with literally anything your suck ass democrat party tells you to go along with.

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                    • L Loki

                      @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                      Another instance of the state GOP turning against a Trump supporter for not supporting Trump enough:
                      https://www.thedailybeast.com/oklahoma-gop-turns-on-sen-james-lankford-for-not-worshipping-trump-enough

                      This is, again, another instance about support for Trump the person, not about Trump’s policies.

                      I don’t think the state GOP endorsed Lankford’s opponent. Can you clarify that Ax. Maybe you can help the daily beast get a more accurate article.

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                      @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                      I don’t think the state GOP endorsed Lankford’s opponent. Can you clarify that Ax. Maybe you can help the daily beast get a more accurate article.

                      The chairman of the Oklahoma Republican Party, John Bennett endorsed Lankford’s opponent.

                      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/fight-over-trump-loyalty-okla-gop-chairman-endorses-sen-lankford-n1273269

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                        I don’t think the state GOP endorsed Lankford’s opponent. Can you clarify that Ax. Maybe you can help the daily beast get a more accurate article.

                        The chairman of the Oklahoma Republican Party, John Bennett endorsed Lankford’s opponent.

                        https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/fight-over-trump-loyalty-okla-gop-chairman-endorses-sen-lankford-n1273269

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                        @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                        @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                        I don’t think the state GOP endorsed Lankford’s opponent. Can you clarify that Ax. Maybe you can help the daily beast get a more accurate article.

                        The chairman of the Oklahoma Republican Party, John Bennett endorsed Lankford’s opponent.

                        https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/fight-over-trump-loyalty-okla-gop-chairman-endorses-sen-lankford-n1273269

                        As an individual not as party chair, correct?

                        Now why was it so hard for the daily beast to get that right?

                        So to conclude, the state GOP of Oklahoma did not endorse Lankdords opponent and therefore is MISLEADING.

                        But you are safe Ax because that will never keep up with the viral spread.

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                          https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/19/pence-flatlines-2024-499919

                          No supporting for Pence 2024.

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                            Anyone who would use the word "whither" in any way has to be a pretentious little prick.

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                              https://www.newsweek.com/arizona-gop-lawmaker-booed-off-stage-trump-protect-our-elections-rally-1612845

                              “Arizona State Sen. Michelle Ugenti-Rita was booed off stage at a rally featuring former President Donald Trump.

                              Ugenti-Rita, a Republican, was immediately met with a chorus of loud boos after taking the stage at a "Protect Our Elections" rally hosted by Turning Point Action in Phoenix on Saturday.”

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                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  Donald Trump

                                  From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                                  Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is an American media personality, businessman and politician who served as the 45th president of the United States from 2017 to 2021.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/george-p-bush-trump-snub_n_60ff739ae4b073351629e2a9

                                    George P., son of Jeb, chose Trump over the Bush family.

                                    Trump chose Ken Paxton, a rival who “was indicted for securities fraud and is under investigation by the FBI over donor dealings.”

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                                      Axtremus
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                                      https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/30/michigan-gop-trump-election-fraud-501701

                                      Michigan GOP cannot get “top-notch professionals” to work for them because …

                                      “From a staff and leadership perspective, I don’t know that top-notch professionals would want to go into this quagmire,” said Jeff Timmer, a former Michigan GOP executive director who opposed Trump. “Unless you’re going to talk crazy talk, they don’t want you there.”

                                      The “crazy talk” refers to denying the fact that Trump lost in 2020 election in Michigan.

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                                        @mik said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

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                                        And the beat goes on...

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          The Republican Accountability Project.
                                          https://accountability.gop/

                                          The RAP?

                                          Looks like a new kid on the block. The RAP seems to focus on voting rights issues rather than being anti-Trump per se.

                                          It claims: “We are Republicans, former Republicans, and conservatives committed to protecting every American’s right to vote.”

                                          It issues “report cards” for elected GOP officials rating their track records on voting rights issues: https://accountability.gop/report-card/

                                          Their recent ad:

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