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Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss

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    Catseye3
    wrote on 6 Feb 2021, 22:47 last edited by
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    A very good essay here: https://lite.cnn.com/en/article/h_b971acfc9736c7fd51280f010789e514 titled, "Why America needs Trump's impeachment trial" states: "The Senate impeachment trial offers a chance for legislators to go on the historical record and say that Trump's behavior cannot stand. Both parties have an opportunity to state in decisive fashion that they will not allow Presidents to whip the electorate into a frenzy of lies and attempt to destroy our democracy for their own self-interest -- and get away with it."

    But will they?

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      Horace
      wrote on 6 Feb 2021, 22:50 last edited by
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      Trump didn't "whip the electorate" into anything. Please. It was a very small group of zealots. And if anybody would like to deal with that reality, then also deal with the reality of CHAS and Portland.

      Education is extremely important.

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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on 7 Feb 2021, 00:09 last edited by taiwan_girl 2 Jul 2021, 00:12
        #5

        One senator said that instead of impeachment, there should be an official letter "condemn" the riot and any part played by President Trump.

        I think this makes alot of sense. I have never think that this impeachment was worthwhile.

        Regarding the comment: "weird worship on one dude" is true. Amazing (and kind of weird) the amount of passion that President Trump gets from a certain % of people. It is like the passion for Kim Il Sung (and his descendants) in the DPRK. Strange.

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          6 Feb 2021, 22:50

          Trump didn't "whip the electorate" into anything. Please. It was a very small group of zealots. And if anybody would like to deal with that reality, then also deal with the reality of CHAS and Portland.

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          Rainman
          wrote on 7 Feb 2021, 00:25 last edited by
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          @horace said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

          Trump didn't "whip the electorate" into anything. Please. It was a very small group of zealots. And if anybody would like to deal with that reality, then also deal with the reality of CHAS and Portland.

          Well, let's see now.
          Today is Feb. 6th. Ax, check your watch batteries, send a little dinky battery to Jon if you can.

          Anything going on today, Feb. 6th? Probably not. I mean, if this stuff was daily, the media would report on it every evening on the MSN Nightly News, and all of our left-wingers would be aware of it and would not bring it up.

          Oh, wait. Let me help for today, Feb. 6th. Maybe there will be nice riot footage later this evening, if there is anything left to bust-up in downtown Portland. It's cold outside, so these anti-fascists are certainly helping PDX by continuing to burn down useless stores every night or so:

          Link to video

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            Mik
            wrote on 7 Feb 2021, 00:32 last edited by
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            Nothing about that on the news.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Rainman
              wrote on 7 Feb 2021, 00:33 last edited by
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              EVERYONE knows that black is slimming.
              That's the first thing fat people learn as soon as they are old enough to realize they are fat.

              So why do the fat women in a protest march wear grey?
              Ax, why is that, huh??

              And if marching is what they "do" in their lives, why haven't they lost weight so they could confidently wear grey?
              Ax, why is that, huh??

              Larry would know. I wish Larry would help straighten everyone out.

              BTW I don't mean straighten like "straight" white males, because the fat ones are female, or maybe not straight females, they might well be pronoun-peopled people, and oops they are not white because they can't be because white especially males are evil and part of the centuries-old patriarchy stuff. Geez, one entire paragraph trying to explain why I dared to use "straight" let alone "white."
              Maybe that's why they wear grey, I mean mix black and white, and what color do you get?? Ax, tell 'em bud, you know this!!
              Grey panthers. They're baaaaack!!

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                7 Feb 2021, 00:32

                Nothing about that on the news.

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                Rainman
                wrote on 7 Feb 2021, 00:38 last edited by
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                @mik said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                Nothing about that on the news.

                Hey, it's not reported on a daily basis here, either, although it is every night somewhere in the city.
                PDX is PD special.

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                  Axtremus
                  wrote on 8 Feb 2021, 14:44 last edited by
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                  Liz Cheney’s interview with Chris Wallace of Fox News:

                  Link to video

                  Posted it elsewhere, but it’s an important window to where the GOP may go post Trump, so tracking it here too.

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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on 9 Feb 2021, 19:35 last edited by
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                    https://www.newsweek.com/lindsey-graham-tim-scott-may-face-censure-south-carolina-county-gop-1567810

                    Sen. Lindsey Graham and Sen. Tim Scott are facing censure by the county GOP in Aiken County, South Carolina because Graham and Scott did not oppose Biden’s election win back on Jan.6, 2021.

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                      9 Feb 2021, 19:35

                      https://www.newsweek.com/lindsey-graham-tim-scott-may-face-censure-south-carolina-county-gop-1567810

                      Sen. Lindsey Graham and Sen. Tim Scott are facing censure by the county GOP in Aiken County, South Carolina because Graham and Scott did not oppose Biden’s election win back on Jan.6, 2021.

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                      Loki
                      wrote on 9 Feb 2021, 19:47 last edited by
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                      @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                      https://www.newsweek.com/lindsey-graham-tim-scott-may-face-censure-south-carolina-county-gop-1567810

                      Sen. Lindsey Graham and Sen. Tim Scott are facing censure by the county GOP in Aiken County, South Carolina because Graham and Scott did not oppose Biden’s election win back on Jan.6, 2021.

                      Let’s see what they decide and let’s also see if it unifies or fractures them. Circle back when you find out.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 9 Feb 2021, 20:53 last edited by
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                        Our two party system is morphing into the Democratic Party and the Anti-democratic Party.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • J jon-nyc
                          9 Feb 2021, 20:53

                          Our two party system is morphing into the Democratic Party and the Anti-democratic Party.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 9 Feb 2021, 22:43 last edited by George K 2 Sept 2021, 22:45
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                          @jon-nyc said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                          Our two party system is morphing into the Democratic Party and the Anti-democratic Party.

                          Glenn Reynolds: “For a guy who supposedly lost, Trump sure had a lot of coattails. And for a guy who supposedly won, Biden sure didn’t.”

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 9 Feb 2021, 22:50 last edited by
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                            Makes you think there were Republicans that didn't want to vote for him. I'll bet Mr Reynolds knows some! Probably has pet names for them like 'RINO' and "NeverTrumper'.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                            • J jon-nyc
                              9 Feb 2021, 20:53

                              Our two party system is morphing into the Democratic Party and the Anti-democratic Party.

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                              Loki
                              wrote on 9 Feb 2021, 22:57 last edited by
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                              @jon-nyc said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                              Our two party system is morphing into the Democratic Party and the Anti-democratic Party.

                              Pretty much. Many old style GOP voters would rather have anything but what’s on the Democrat menu. A fragile coalition of hard core Trumpsters and urban socially liberal GOP. If GOP alienates the Trump base it has no firm idea how to replace it.

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                                Axtremus
                                wrote on 10 Feb 2021, 14:58 last edited by
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                                https://www.newsweek.com/michigan-senator-mike-shirkey-thinks-capitol-riot-was-staged-mitch-mcconnell-was-part-it-1568075

                                Michigan Senator Mike Shirkey Thinks Capitol Riot Was 'Staged,' Mitch McConnell Was 'Part of It'

                                Shirkey's comments were recorded in a video that was posted on YouTube after he met with members of the Hillsdale County Republican Party. The local GOP group later voted to censure him for not supporting former President Donald Trump enough and for failing to stand up to Governor Gretchen Whitmer with regard to the Second Amendment and COVID-19 restrictions.
                                The conversation began as a meeting about his upcoming censure but turned attention to the Capitol riot. When asked "What about the D.C. thing?" Shirkey called it a "hoax from day one."
                                ...
                                ——

                                Michigan Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey claims that the Jan.6 Capitol riot was a hoax, accused McConnell for being in on the hoax, then he got censured by the Hillsdale County GOP for not supporting Trump enough.

                                What are these people thinking?

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                                  10 Feb 2021, 14:58

                                  https://www.newsweek.com/michigan-senator-mike-shirkey-thinks-capitol-riot-was-staged-mitch-mcconnell-was-part-it-1568075

                                  Michigan Senator Mike Shirkey Thinks Capitol Riot Was 'Staged,' Mitch McConnell Was 'Part of It'

                                  Shirkey's comments were recorded in a video that was posted on YouTube after he met with members of the Hillsdale County Republican Party. The local GOP group later voted to censure him for not supporting former President Donald Trump enough and for failing to stand up to Governor Gretchen Whitmer with regard to the Second Amendment and COVID-19 restrictions.
                                  The conversation began as a meeting about his upcoming censure but turned attention to the Capitol riot. When asked "What about the D.C. thing?" Shirkey called it a "hoax from day one."
                                  ...
                                  ——

                                  Michigan Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey claims that the Jan.6 Capitol riot was a hoax, accused McConnell for being in on the hoax, then he got censured by the Hillsdale County GOP for not supporting Trump enough.

                                  What are these people thinking?

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                                  Loki
                                  wrote on 10 Feb 2021, 15:34 last edited by Loki 2 Oct 2021, 15:35
                                  #18

                                  Sharkey is a state senator, likely thousands in the US. How many times are we going to quote these people? There are so many fringe examples on both sides.

                                  This is akin to commenting on any twitter post from any post.

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                                  • L Loki
                                    10 Feb 2021, 15:34

                                    Sharkey is a state senator, likely thousands in the US. How many times are we going to quote these people? There are so many fringe examples on both sides.

                                    This is akin to commenting on any twitter post from any post.

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 10 Feb 2021, 15:37 last edited by
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                                    @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                    Sharkey is a state senator, likely thousands in the US. How many times are we going to quote these people? There are so many fringe examples on both sides.

                                    This is akin to commenting on any twitter post from any post.

                                    Shhh... you're interrupting the narrative that ignores the fact that most folks are rather centrist.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      10 Feb 2021, 15:34

                                      Sharkey is a state senator, likely thousands in the US. How many times are we going to quote these people? There are so many fringe examples on both sides.

                                      This is akin to commenting on any twitter post from any post.

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 10 Feb 2021, 16:19 last edited by
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                                      @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                      Sharkey is a state senator, likely thousands in the US.

                                      Sharkey is a state senate majority leader; there are only 50 of those in the US.

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                                        10 Feb 2021, 16:19

                                        @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                        Sharkey is a state senator, likely thousands in the US.

                                        Sharkey is a state senate majority leader; there are only 50 of those in the US.

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                                        Loki
                                        wrote on 10 Feb 2021, 16:38 last edited by
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                                        @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                        @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                        Sharkey is a state senator, likely thousands in the US.

                                        Sharkey is a state senate majority leader; there are only 50 of those in the US.

                                        I have said many times quoting state critters is diving into the mosh pit. It’s so crazy to make it national news is just abusive as most people don’t catch the big asterisk.

                                        So your state senate leader said something crazy, okay, well that state congressperson stuff happens many times a day. You gonna cherry pick?

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                                        • A Axtremus
                                          10 Feb 2021, 14:58

                                          https://www.newsweek.com/michigan-senator-mike-shirkey-thinks-capitol-riot-was-staged-mitch-mcconnell-was-part-it-1568075

                                          Michigan Senator Mike Shirkey Thinks Capitol Riot Was 'Staged,' Mitch McConnell Was 'Part of It'

                                          Shirkey's comments were recorded in a video that was posted on YouTube after he met with members of the Hillsdale County Republican Party. The local GOP group later voted to censure him for not supporting former President Donald Trump enough and for failing to stand up to Governor Gretchen Whitmer with regard to the Second Amendment and COVID-19 restrictions.
                                          The conversation began as a meeting about his upcoming censure but turned attention to the Capitol riot. When asked "What about the D.C. thing?" Shirkey called it a "hoax from day one."
                                          ...
                                          ——

                                          Michigan Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey claims that the Jan.6 Capitol riot was a hoax, accused McConnell for being in on the hoax, then he got censured by the Hillsdale County GOP for not supporting Trump enough.

                                          What are these people thinking?

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                                          Copper
                                          wrote on 10 Feb 2021, 16:40 last edited by
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                                          @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                          Shirkey called it a "hoax from day one."
                                          ——

                                          I think we can all agree that the coverage of the event meant to present a hoax.

                                          A few doofusses taking selfies were not going to overthrow anything.

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