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Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    No, Ryan did a truly crappy job as speaker and that is what he is truly remembered for.

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    Doctor Phibes
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    @jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

    No, Ryan did a truly crappy job as speaker and that is what he is truly remembered for.

    All I really remember him for at this point is his failed VP bid with Romney, another guy the Beliebers now despise.

    I was only joking

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    • AxtremusA Axtremus

      Before Paul Ryan, there was another GOP Speaker of the House, John Boehner, who is also rather critical of Trump. @Jolly probably thinks that Boehner sucked, too.

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      @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

      Before Paul Ryan, there was another GOP Speaker of the House, John Boehner, who is also rather critical of Trump. @Jolly probably thinks that Boehner sucked, too.

      That crying sucker?

      Yes, he sucketh deeply. Still does.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        taiwan_girl
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        #111

        Regardless of anything else you have said or done

        You like President Trump = Good Republic
        You dont like President Trump = Bad Republic

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          Axtremus
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          #112

          https://newrepublic.com/article/162646/gop-mail-in-ballots-voter-suppression

          The article explains how the GOP‘s drive to reduce voting-by-mail hurts Republicans more, and that the GOP is doing it just to appease Trump and Trump’s followers.

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            https://newrepublic.com/article/162646/gop-mail-in-ballots-voter-suppression

            The article explains how the GOP‘s drive to reduce voting-by-mail hurts Republicans more, and that the GOP is doing it just to appease Trump and Trump’s followers.

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            #113

            @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

            https://newrepublic.com/article/162646/gop-mail-in-ballots-voter-suppression

            The article explains how the GOP‘s drive to reduce voting-by-mail hurts Republicans more, and that the GOP is doing it just to appease Trump and Trump’s followers.

            Name one person who is unable to vote because of the GOP suppression.

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            • CopperC Copper

              @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

              https://newrepublic.com/article/162646/gop-mail-in-ballots-voter-suppression

              The article explains how the GOP‘s drive to reduce voting-by-mail hurts Republicans more, and that the GOP is doing it just to appease Trump and Trump’s followers.

              Name one person who is unable to vote because of the GOP suppression.

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              Horace
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              @copper said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

              @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

              https://newrepublic.com/article/162646/gop-mail-in-ballots-voter-suppression

              The article explains how the GOP‘s drive to reduce voting-by-mail hurts Republicans more, and that the GOP is doing it just to appease Trump and Trump’s followers.

              Name one person who is unable to vote because of the GOP suppression.

              That's not a fair question. Lefties think black people can't vote due to GOP suppression, but lefties don't know any black people, so can't name them.

              Education is extremely important.

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                https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-has-become-even-greater-threat-democracy-than-trump-2021-6

                The GOP has proven to be an even 'greater threat' to US democracy than Trump in 2021

                https://www.businessinsider.com/us-democracy-danger-gop-voting-restrictions-over-100-scholars-warn-2021-6

                Republicans are putting America's democracy in mortal danger, more than 100 scholars warn

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-has-become-even-greater-threat-democracy-than-trump-2021-6

                  The GOP has proven to be an even 'greater threat' to US democracy than Trump in 2021

                  https://www.businessinsider.com/us-democracy-danger-gop-voting-restrictions-over-100-scholars-warn-2021-6

                  Republicans are putting America's democracy in mortal danger, more than 100 scholars warn

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                  #116

                  @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                  https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-has-become-even-greater-threat-democracy-than-trump-2021-6

                  The GOP has proven to be an even 'greater threat' to US democracy than Trump in 2021

                  https://www.businessinsider.com/us-democracy-danger-gop-voting-restrictions-over-100-scholars-warn-2021-6

                  Republicans are putting America's democracy in mortal danger, more than 100 scholars warn

                  Name one person who is unable to vote because of the GOP suppression.

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                    Axtremus
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                    #117

                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumpinfluencegopcandidates/2021/06/05/c52292a6-c603-11eb-9a8d-f95d7724967c_story.html

                    Article on GOP candidates struggle to escape Trump’s influence. Examples include George P. Bush (son of Jeb) who jettisoned the Bush brand to pursue Trump’s endorsement as he runs for the office of Attorney General in Texas; this despite Trump belittled his father and attacked his uncle.

                    Pence, despite his deep connection to the traditional pre-Trump GOP, also won’t be able to draw on that legacy for any of his future ambitions after four years with Trump.

                    Another case study of sort is Glenn Youngkin who is running for Virginia’s gubernatorial office. Youngkin ran a hardline conservative message and secured Trump’s endorsement, and now find that he cannot pivot to the center because his opponent will to let voter forget that Trump endorsed Youngkin.

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                      Trump’s 2021 June 5 speech in North Carolina Republican Party State Convention:

                      Link to video

                      Even Fox News refused to air that speech.

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumpinfluencegopcandidates/2021/06/05/c52292a6-c603-11eb-9a8d-f95d7724967c_story.html

                        Article on GOP candidates struggle to escape Trump’s influence. Examples include George P. Bush (son of Jeb) who jettisoned the Bush brand to pursue Trump’s endorsement as he runs for the office of Attorney General in Texas; this despite Trump belittled his father and attacked his uncle.

                        Pence, despite his deep connection to the traditional pre-Trump GOP, also won’t be able to draw on that legacy for any of his future ambitions after four years with Trump.

                        Another case study of sort is Glenn Youngkin who is running for Virginia’s gubernatorial office. Youngkin ran a hardline conservative message and secured Trump’s endorsement, and now find that he cannot pivot to the center because his opponent will to let voter forget that Trump endorsed Youngkin.

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                        Loki
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                        #119

                        @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumpinfluencegopcandidates/2021/06/05/c52292a6-c603-11eb-9a8d-f95d7724967c_story.html

                        Article on GOP candidates struggle to escape Trump’s influence. Examples include George P. Bush (son of Jeb) who jettisoned the Bush brand to pursue Trump’s endorsement as he runs for the office of Attorney General in Texas; this despite Trump belittled his father and attacked his uncle.

                        Pence, despite his deep connection to the traditional pre-Trump GOP, also won’t be able to draw on that legacy for any of his future ambitions after four years with Trump.

                        Another case study of sort is Glenn Youngkin who is running for Virginia’s gubernatorial office. Youngkin ran a hardline conservative message and secured Trump’s endorsement, and now find that he cannot pivot to the center because his opponent will to let voter forget that Trump endorsed Youngkin.

                        We live in a divided country where a progressive agenda has low odds to be successful. Cleaving the GOP would be the best strategy to run the table…doesn’t look like it will happen.

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                          Axtremus
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                          https://morningconsult.com/2021/06/09/trump-reinstated-democracy-polling/

                          “29% of GOP Voters Say It’s Likely Trump Will Be Reinstated as President This Year”

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                          • AxtremusA Axtremus

                            https://morningconsult.com/2021/06/09/trump-reinstated-democracy-polling/

                            “29% of GOP Voters Say It’s Likely Trump Will Be Reinstated as President This Year”

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                            Jolly
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                            #121

                            @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                            https://morningconsult.com/2021/06/09/trump-reinstated-democracy-polling/

                            “29% of GOP Voters Say It’s Likely Trump Will Be Reinstated as President This Year”

                            Nah, it won't be until 2024...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Jolly
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                                Yes, he does.

                                I'm sure Cheney is at the top of the list.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  He appears to have hidden his agenda down the front of his suit pants.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    He appears to have hidden his agenda down the front of his suit pants.

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                                    George K
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                                    @doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                    He appears to have hidden his agenda down the front of his suit pants.

                                    Those were very fine pants, front and back.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Axtremus
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                                      Trump tries to unseat Gov. Brian Kemp of Georgia. No taker.

                                      https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/11/politics/trump-georgia-governor-primary-kemp/index.html

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                                        At this early juncture pundits believe 2022 outcome is 50-50 odds for GOP majority and the GOP taking the House.

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                                          At this early juncture pundits believe 2022 outcome is 50-50 odds for GOP majority and the GOP taking the House.

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                                          @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                          At this early juncture pundits believe 2022 outcome is 50-50 odds for GOP majority and the GOP taking the House.

                                          I posted this yesterday. Am repeating it since I don't get no respect. "Here's an excerpt from a NYT opinion piece by Ross Douthat, yesterday: "But that note didn’t adequately convey just how despairing a lot of progressives have become, treating the hypothetical where Trump (or, for that matter, some other Republican nominee) actually succeeds in overturning an election defeat not just as a possibility but as a likely outcome in 2024, the destination to which we’re probably headed absent some unexpected change.

                                          “This is where it’s going,” the press critic Jay Rosen of New York University tweeted recently, about a scenario in which state legislatures, the House and the Senate would simply hand the presidency to the G.O.P. nominee, “and there is presently nothing on the horizon that would stop it.”

                                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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