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Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss

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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-has-become-even-greater-threat-democracy-than-trump-2021-6

    The GOP has proven to be an even 'greater threat' to US democracy than Trump in 2021

    https://www.businessinsider.com/us-democracy-danger-gop-voting-restrictions-over-100-scholars-warn-2021-6

    Republicans are putting America's democracy in mortal danger, more than 100 scholars warn

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    @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-has-become-even-greater-threat-democracy-than-trump-2021-6

    The GOP has proven to be an even 'greater threat' to US democracy than Trump in 2021

    https://www.businessinsider.com/us-democracy-danger-gop-voting-restrictions-over-100-scholars-warn-2021-6

    Republicans are putting America's democracy in mortal danger, more than 100 scholars warn

    Name one person who is unable to vote because of the GOP suppression.

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      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumpinfluencegopcandidates/2021/06/05/c52292a6-c603-11eb-9a8d-f95d7724967c_story.html

      Article on GOP candidates struggle to escape Trump’s influence. Examples include George P. Bush (son of Jeb) who jettisoned the Bush brand to pursue Trump’s endorsement as he runs for the office of Attorney General in Texas; this despite Trump belittled his father and attacked his uncle.

      Pence, despite his deep connection to the traditional pre-Trump GOP, also won’t be able to draw on that legacy for any of his future ambitions after four years with Trump.

      Another case study of sort is Glenn Youngkin who is running for Virginia’s gubernatorial office. Youngkin ran a hardline conservative message and secured Trump’s endorsement, and now find that he cannot pivot to the center because his opponent will to let voter forget that Trump endorsed Youngkin.

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        Trump’s 2021 June 5 speech in North Carolina Republican Party State Convention:

        Link to video

        Even Fox News refused to air that speech.

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumpinfluencegopcandidates/2021/06/05/c52292a6-c603-11eb-9a8d-f95d7724967c_story.html

          Article on GOP candidates struggle to escape Trump’s influence. Examples include George P. Bush (son of Jeb) who jettisoned the Bush brand to pursue Trump’s endorsement as he runs for the office of Attorney General in Texas; this despite Trump belittled his father and attacked his uncle.

          Pence, despite his deep connection to the traditional pre-Trump GOP, also won’t be able to draw on that legacy for any of his future ambitions after four years with Trump.

          Another case study of sort is Glenn Youngkin who is running for Virginia’s gubernatorial office. Youngkin ran a hardline conservative message and secured Trump’s endorsement, and now find that he cannot pivot to the center because his opponent will to let voter forget that Trump endorsed Youngkin.

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          @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumpinfluencegopcandidates/2021/06/05/c52292a6-c603-11eb-9a8d-f95d7724967c_story.html

          Article on GOP candidates struggle to escape Trump’s influence. Examples include George P. Bush (son of Jeb) who jettisoned the Bush brand to pursue Trump’s endorsement as he runs for the office of Attorney General in Texas; this despite Trump belittled his father and attacked his uncle.

          Pence, despite his deep connection to the traditional pre-Trump GOP, also won’t be able to draw on that legacy for any of his future ambitions after four years with Trump.

          Another case study of sort is Glenn Youngkin who is running for Virginia’s gubernatorial office. Youngkin ran a hardline conservative message and secured Trump’s endorsement, and now find that he cannot pivot to the center because his opponent will to let voter forget that Trump endorsed Youngkin.

          We live in a divided country where a progressive agenda has low odds to be successful. Cleaving the GOP would be the best strategy to run the table…doesn’t look like it will happen.

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            https://morningconsult.com/2021/06/09/trump-reinstated-democracy-polling/

            “29% of GOP Voters Say It’s Likely Trump Will Be Reinstated as President This Year”

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              https://morningconsult.com/2021/06/09/trump-reinstated-democracy-polling/

              “29% of GOP Voters Say It’s Likely Trump Will Be Reinstated as President This Year”

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              @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

              https://morningconsult.com/2021/06/09/trump-reinstated-democracy-polling/

              “29% of GOP Voters Say It’s Likely Trump Will Be Reinstated as President This Year”

              Nah, it won't be until 2024...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Yes, he does.

                  I'm sure Cheney is at the top of the list.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    He appears to have hidden his agenda down the front of his suit pants.

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      He appears to have hidden his agenda down the front of his suit pants.

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                      @doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                      He appears to have hidden his agenda down the front of his suit pants.

                      Those were very fine pants, front and back.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Trump tries to unseat Gov. Brian Kemp of Georgia. No taker.

                        https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/11/politics/trump-georgia-governor-primary-kemp/index.html

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                          At this early juncture pundits believe 2022 outcome is 50-50 odds for GOP majority and the GOP taking the House.

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                            At this early juncture pundits believe 2022 outcome is 50-50 odds for GOP majority and the GOP taking the House.

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                            @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                            At this early juncture pundits believe 2022 outcome is 50-50 odds for GOP majority and the GOP taking the House.

                            I posted this yesterday. Am repeating it since I don't get no respect. "Here's an excerpt from a NYT opinion piece by Ross Douthat, yesterday: "But that note didn’t adequately convey just how despairing a lot of progressives have become, treating the hypothetical where Trump (or, for that matter, some other Republican nominee) actually succeeds in overturning an election defeat not just as a possibility but as a likely outcome in 2024, the destination to which we’re probably headed absent some unexpected change.

                            “This is where it’s going,” the press critic Jay Rosen of New York University tweeted recently, about a scenario in which state legislatures, the House and the Senate would simply hand the presidency to the G.O.P. nominee, “and there is presently nothing on the horizon that would stop it.”

                            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                              @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                              At this early juncture pundits believe 2022 outcome is 50-50 odds for GOP majority and the GOP taking the House.

                              I posted this yesterday. Am repeating it since I don't get no respect. "Here's an excerpt from a NYT opinion piece by Ross Douthat, yesterday: "But that note didn’t adequately convey just how despairing a lot of progressives have become, treating the hypothetical where Trump (or, for that matter, some other Republican nominee) actually succeeds in overturning an election defeat not just as a possibility but as a likely outcome in 2024, the destination to which we’re probably headed absent some unexpected change.

                              “This is where it’s going,” the press critic Jay Rosen of New York University tweeted recently, about a scenario in which state legislatures, the House and the Senate would simply hand the presidency to the G.O.P. nominee, “and there is presently nothing on the horizon that would stop it.”

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                              @catseye3 said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                              @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                              At this early juncture pundits believe 2022 outcome is 50-50 odds for GOP majority and the GOP taking the House.

                              I posted this yesterday. Am repeating it since I don't get no respect. "Here's an excerpt from a NYT opinion piece by Ross Douthat, yesterday: "But that note didn’t adequately convey just how despairing a lot of progressives have become, treating the hypothetical where Trump (or, for that matter, some other Republican nominee) actually succeeds in overturning an election defeat not just as a possibility but as a likely outcome in 2024, the destination to which we’re probably headed absent some unexpected change.

                              “This is where it’s going,” the press critic Jay Rosen of New York University tweeted recently, about a scenario in which state legislatures, the House and the Senate would simply hand the presidency to the G.O.P. nominee, “and there is presently nothing on the horizon that would stop it.”

                              See, that's the problem. You're buying this crap about handing an election to a candidate(s). Almost every bill I've seen specifies valid signatures on mail in ballots and/or ID at the poling place (either early or on election day).

                              Now, how is this handing an election to the GOP?

                              Black, yellow, white and brown people are too stupid to sign their own name? They're too stupid to obtain a driver's license or state issued ID?

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Loki
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                                #130

                                Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.

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                                  Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.

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                                  @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                  Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.

                                  Easy ...

                                  Any one can give any one a cell phone. Any one can buy a cell phone.

                                  "ID," the sort that the you'd deem necessary to prove voting eligibility, can only be issued by government entities.

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                                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                    @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                    Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.

                                    Easy ...

                                    Any one can give any one a cell phone. Any one can buy a cell phone.

                                    "ID," the sort that the you'd deem necessary to prove voting eligibility, can only be issued by government entities.

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                                    @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                    @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                    Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.

                                    Easy ...

                                    Any one can give any one a cell phone. Any one can buy a cell phone.

                                    "ID," the sort that the you'd deem necessary to prove voting eligibility, can only be issued by government entities.

                                    Anyone can get an ID.

                                    What's your point?

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                      @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                      Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.

                                      Easy ...

                                      Any one can give any one a cell phone. Any one can buy a cell phone.

                                      "ID," the sort that the you'd deem necessary to prove voting eligibility, can only be issued by government entities.

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                                      Loki
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                                      #133

                                      @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                      @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                      Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.

                                      Easy ...

                                      Any one can give any one a cell phone. Any one can buy a cell phone.

                                      "ID," the sort that the you'd deem necessary to prove voting eligibility, can only be issued by government entities.

                                      ID is hard to get. Okay then. I believe you. For me it’s the opposite. I can’t function without ID.

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        @catseye3 said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                        @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                        At this early juncture pundits believe 2022 outcome is 50-50 odds for GOP majority and the GOP taking the House.

                                        I posted this yesterday. Am repeating it since I don't get no respect. "Here's an excerpt from a NYT opinion piece by Ross Douthat, yesterday: "But that note didn’t adequately convey just how despairing a lot of progressives have become, treating the hypothetical where Trump (or, for that matter, some other Republican nominee) actually succeeds in overturning an election defeat not just as a possibility but as a likely outcome in 2024, the destination to which we’re probably headed absent some unexpected change.

                                        “This is where it’s going,” the press critic Jay Rosen of New York University tweeted recently, about a scenario in which state legislatures, the House and the Senate would simply hand the presidency to the G.O.P. nominee, “and there is presently nothing on the horizon that would stop it.”

                                        See, that's the problem. You're buying this crap about handing an election to a candidate(s). Almost every bill I've seen specifies valid signatures on mail in ballots and/or ID at the poling place (either early or on election day).

                                        Now, how is this handing an election to the GOP?

                                        Black, yellow, white and brown people are too stupid to sign their own name? They're too stupid to obtain a driver's license or state issued ID?

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                                        Kincaid
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                                        #134

                                        "Black, yellow, white and brown people are too stupid to sign their own name? They're too stupid to obtain a driver's license or state issued ID?"

                                        The soft bigotry of low expectations.

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                                          @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                          @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                          Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.

                                          Easy ...

                                          Any one can give any one a cell phone. Any one can buy a cell phone.

                                          "ID," the sort that the you'd deem necessary to prove voting eligibility, can only be issued by government entities.

                                          ID is hard to get. Okay then. I believe you. For me it’s the opposite. I can’t function without ID.

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                                          Horace
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                                          @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                          @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                          @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                          Explain to me again how every American can get a cell phone but ID is a hardship? You have to torture your brain to get there.

                                          Easy ...

                                          Any one can give any one a cell phone. Any one can buy a cell phone.

                                          "ID," the sort that the you'd deem necessary to prove voting eligibility, can only be issued by government entities.

                                          ID is hard to get. Okay then. I believe you. For me it’s the opposite. I can’t function without ID.

                                          The Democrat party is not in the business of encouraging functional voters. They are in the business of encouraging Democrat voters.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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