Office of The Former President
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wrote on 26 Jan 2021, 17:33 last edited by
Very much an "Assistant to the Regional Manager" kinda vibe.
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wrote on 26 Jan 2021, 17:35 last edited by
"Manager, Special Projects" is what we call people before they're retired.
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wrote on 27 Jan 2021, 01:18 last edited by
Realize if he can carve out half of the Republicans who voted for him and most of the Dems, he'd have the second largest political party?
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Realize if he can carve out half of the Republicans who voted for him and most of the Dems, he'd have the second largest political party?
wrote on 27 Jan 2021, 01:21 last edited by@jolly said in Office of The Former President:
Realize if he can carve out half of the Republicans who voted for him and most of the Dems, he'd have the second largest political party?
Second place doesn’t count for much when you’re in the distant minority.
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@jolly said in Office of The Former President:
Realize if he can carve out half of the Republicans who voted for him and most of the Dems, he'd have the second largest political party?
Second place doesn’t count for much when you’re in the distant minority.
wrote on 27 Jan 2021, 01:22 last edited by@xenon said in Office of The Former President:
@jolly said in Office of The Former President:
Realize if he can carve out half of the Republicans who voted for him and most of the Dems, he'd have the second largest political party?
Second place doesn’t count for much when you’re in the distant minority.
Tell that to Bush 41.
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wrote on 27 Jan 2021, 02:04 last edited by xenon
Hmmm.. I think a bunch of centrist democrats would find common cause with that 17% of Republicans.
There'd be a bunch of second order effects.
I'd love it if there was a party for kooks on both sides and a centrist one.
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Hmmm.. I think a bunch of centrist democrats would find common cause with that 17% of Republicans.
There'd be a bunch of second order effects.
I'd love it if there was a party for kooks on both sides and a centrist one.
wrote on 27 Jan 2021, 02:09 last edited by@xenon said in Office of The Former President:
Hmmm.. I think a bunch of centrist democrats would find common cause with that 17% of Republicans.
There'd be a bunch of second order effects.
I'd love it if there was a party for kooks on both sides and a centrist one.
And who says the Trump isn't the one with the Centrists?
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@xenon said in Office of The Former President:
@jolly said in Office of The Former President:
Realize if he can carve out half of the Republicans who voted for him and most of the Dems, he'd have the second largest political party?
Second place doesn’t count for much when you’re in the distant minority.
Tell that to Bush 41.
wrote on 27 Jan 2021, 02:10 last edited by@jolly said in Office of The Former President:
@xenon said in Office of The Former President:
@jolly said in Office of The Former President:
Realize if he can carve out half of the Republicans who voted for him and most of the Dems, he'd have the second largest political party?
Second place doesn’t count for much when you’re in the distant minority.
Tell that to Bush 41.
If Trump's party gains any traction you can kiss goodbye to a conservative government. He'll split the right.
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@xenon said in Office of The Former President:
Hmmm.. I think a bunch of centrist democrats would find common cause with that 17% of Republicans.
There'd be a bunch of second order effects.
I'd love it if there was a party for kooks on both sides and a centrist one.
And who says the Trump isn't the one with the Centrists?
wrote on 27 Jan 2021, 02:10 last edited by@jolly said in Office of The Former President:
@xenon said in Office of The Former President:
Hmmm.. I think a bunch of centrist democrats would find common cause with that 17% of Republicans.
There'd be a bunch of second order effects.
I'd love it if there was a party for kooks on both sides and a centrist one.
And who says the Trump isn't the one with the Centrists?
Yeah, it's been really noticeable how all the moderates here are so pro-Trump.
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wrote on 27 Jan 2021, 04:28 last edited by
@jolly said in Office of The Former President:
23%.
How about you, @Jolly ? If it comes down to Trump (or Trump’s party) vs. another Republican (or the Republic party) for your ballot, which one would you vote for?
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@jolly said in Office of The Former President:
@xenon said in Office of The Former President:
@jolly said in Office of The Former President:
Realize if he can carve out half of the Republicans who voted for him and most of the Dems, he'd have the second largest political party?
Second place doesn’t count for much when you’re in the distant minority.
Tell that to Bush 41.
If Trump's party gains any traction you can kiss goodbye to a conservative government. He'll split the right.
wrote on 27 Jan 2021, 04:31 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Office of The Former President:
@jolly said in Office of The Former President:
@xenon said in Office of The Former President:
@jolly said in Office of The Former President:
Realize if he can carve out half of the Republicans who voted for him and most of the Dems, he'd have the second largest political party?
Second place doesn’t count for much when you’re in the distant minority.
Tell that to Bush 41.
If Trump's party gains any traction you can kiss goodbye to a conservative government. He'll split the right.
Yeah it’d be like a 3rd party spoiler on steroids. Would easily hand dems election after election. The good news is a Trump party would likely go bankrupt based on his track record.
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wrote on 27 Jan 2021, 04:37 last edited by
Sorry lads, you're missing some points.
Trump did much, much better in some heavily latino districts, than any Republican has ever done.
Trump did better in some black districts, than Republicans normally do.
That means there is some room to carve out a constituency that inckudes a sizeable portion of formally Democrat voters. Not traditional Republican voters.
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wrote on 27 Jan 2021, 04:41 last edited by
Yeah but still in the minority. Zero ZERO chance Trump would win next to a rep and lib. He couldn’t even win when there was only the lib.
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wrote on 27 Jan 2021, 04:55 last edited by
Are we already pretending like he didn’t leave in disgrace, after he lost?
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wrote on 27 Jan 2021, 12:23 last edited by
@xenon said in Office of The Former President:
Are we already pretending like he didn’t leave in disgrace, after he lost?
I don’t think he’ll ever be able to shake that as his primary legacy. Well earned, too. I’m glad he is paying the price for being a sitting President lying about an election and refusing to concede.
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Sorry lads, you're missing some points.
Trump did much, much better in some heavily latino districts, than any Republican has ever done.
Trump did better in some black districts, than Republicans normally do.
That means there is some room to carve out a constituency that inckudes a sizeable portion of formally Democrat voters. Not traditional Republican voters.
wrote on 27 Jan 2021, 12:48 last edited by@jolly said in Office of The Former President:
Sorry lads, you're missing some points.
Trump did much, much better in some heavily latino districts, than any Republican has ever done.
Trump did better in some black districts, than Republicans normally do.
That means there is some room to carve out a constituency that inckudes a sizeable portion of formally Democrat voters. Not traditional Republican voters.
The article you quoted says that the Trumpet Party would push the Republicans into third place, based on what sounds like a rather optimistic opinion poll.
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Yeah but still in the minority. Zero ZERO chance Trump would win next to a rep and lib. He couldn’t even win when there was only the lib.
wrote on 27 Jan 2021, 13:00 last edited by@89th said in Office of The Former President:
Yeah but still in the minority. Zero ZERO chance Trump would win next to a rep and lib. He couldn’t even win when there was only the lib.
Trump didn't win because...
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COVID. Not his response to the pandemic, which was average or a bit better than average, but simply because of the turmoil and suffering the pandemic brought. Right or wrong, the buck stops on the President's desk.
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Media lies and biased coverage. The MSM coverage of Trump was biased and unrelenting. Even when news outlets knew better, they would still propagate baseless lies as fact about Trump, as in the Russia! hoax.
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The MSM anointing Biden as the Chosen One. No hard questions, no coverage of many of his miscues or missteps, no questioning if his bunker strategy or his premature lids on activity, no hard looks at his record in Washington. Most importantly, no true examination of his influence peddling or how the Biden family made their money. And a total fail on covering the Hunter Biden story.
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Election fraud. Yep, I'm going there. I think there was plenty of election fraud and I think most of the anomalies and evidence produced was roundly ignored. I don't think the fraud was centrally controlled, but rather a culmination of individuals and local Democrat party organisations making the "moral" choice to cheat against a perceived evil Orange Man. It is sad that an election in Turkey is more transparent than an election in America.
Can Trump win again, either as a Republican or as a third party? Ask the Dems, they're scared shitless of him. Witness the current political perversion of the Constitution and the Pelosi-generated shitshow.
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@jolly said in Office of The Former President:
23%.
How about you, @Jolly ? If it comes down to Trump (or Trump’s party) vs. another Republican (or the Republic party) for your ballot, which one would you vote for?
wrote on 27 Jan 2021, 13:04 last edited by@axtremus said in Office of The Former President:
How about you, @Jolly ? If it comes down to Trump (or Trump’s party) vs. another Republican (or the Republic party) for your ballot, which one would you vote for?
I want to open that question to everyone. Is there anyone here who would vote for Trump (or the Trump party) over another Republican (or the Republican party) if an election comes down to these two?
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wrote on 27 Jan 2021, 16:05 last edited by
@axtremus as I have said, I think there are many things that President Trump did well during his presidency but his overall character outweighed much of that good that he did. I think @xenon said it better than I could in an earlier post.
Basically, for those who like President Trump, his positives weigh more than his flaws. For those who do not like him, his flaws weigh more than his positives.
For me, it would have to be a very very poor republic candidate that would make me vote for President Trump over them.
