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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #5

    https://news.yahoo.com/doj-no-evidence-kill-capture-210057312.html

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • MikM Away
      MikM Away
      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #6

      Just get it out there first, quietly retract it later.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        @aqua-letifer said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

        @lufins-dad said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

        Damn those Trumpers!

        Link to video

        Link to video

        I can’t believe that for the first time in history we won’t have a peaceful transition of power!

        How. Many. of. Them. Attempted. to. Assassinate. the. Vice. President.

        You seriously think Pence could have walked through this crowd and not have been killed? I would give Pence a better chance walking through the Capitol Hill gang than these guys...

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        Aqua Letifer
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        #7

        @lufins-dad said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

        You seriously think Pence could have walked through this crowd and not have been killed? I would give Pence a better chance walking through the Capitol Hill gang than these guys...

        Pence didn't walk through that crowd. Just like he didn't walk through the crowd at the Capitol. Unlike the people in your video they broke the fuck in.

        Please love yourself.

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        • George KG George K

          https://news.yahoo.com/doj-no-evidence-kill-capture-210057312.html

          Aqua LetiferA Offline
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          Aqua Letifer
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          #8

          @george-k said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

          https://news.yahoo.com/doj-no-evidence-kill-capture-210057312.html

          “Where’s the traitors?” “Bring them out!” “Get these fucking cocksucking Commies out!”

          “We can take you out!”

          “a tidal wave of white identity is coming!”

          “If God were here, He would smite these motherfuckers.”

          “I am willing to give my life for this fight.”

          “Fuck these DC Police. Fuck those cock suckers up. Beat them down. You dont get to return to your families.”

          “We need to come back with guns. One time with guns, and then we’ll never have to do this again.”

          “You are cattle today.”

          “Start makin’ a list! Put all those names down, and we start huntin’ them down, one by one!”

          “Traitors to the guillotine!”

          “They won’t be able to walk down the streets!”

          “We are at war. . . . Mobilize in your own cities, your own counties. Storm your own capitol buildings. And take down every one of these corrupt motherfuckers.”

          Please love yourself.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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            Aqua Letifer
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            #9

            What in the fuck do you call that? Letting off some steam?

            Please love yourself.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              What in the fuck do you call that? Letting off some steam?

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              Loki
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              #10

              @aqua-letifer said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

              What in the fuck do you call that? Letting off some steam?

              Honestly I call it too familiar language and now we have a perfect opportunity to put it to an end forever.

              It is completely intolerable and everyone who does it should pay a high price for it.

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              • L Loki

                @aqua-letifer said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                What in the fuck do you call that? Letting off some steam?

                Honestly I call it too familiar language and now we have a perfect opportunity to put it to an end forever.

                It is completely intolerable and everyone who does it should pay a high price for it.

                Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
                #11

                @loki said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                @aqua-letifer said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                What in the fuck do you call that? Letting off some steam?

                Honestly I call it too familiar language and now we have a perfect opportunity to put it to an end forever.

                It is completely intolerable and everyone who does it should pay a high price for it.

                That's an extremely good perspective to have.

                This is all starting to get weird.

                A lot of people shared around information about the Guantanamo Bay torture stuff when it was going around. Which, fair enough. But if, right after the ISIS beheading of Alan Henning, your response is to bring up the Guantanamo Bay incidents and that's all you wanted to talk about, my response to that is going to be very different.

                What is just so fucking important about proving that the other side is worse? What kind of medal do you get with that, how is that better than taking melatonin?

                Please love yourself.

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  @loki said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                  @aqua-letifer said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                  What in the fuck do you call that? Letting off some steam?

                  Honestly I call it too familiar language and now we have a perfect opportunity to put it to an end forever.

                  It is completely intolerable and everyone who does it should pay a high price for it.

                  That's an extremely good perspective to have.

                  This is all starting to get weird.

                  A lot of people shared around information about the Guantanamo Bay torture stuff when it was going around. Which, fair enough. But if, right after the ISIS beheading of Alan Henning, your response is to bring up the Guantanamo Bay incidents and that's all you wanted to talk about, my response to that is going to be very different.

                  What is just so fucking important about proving that the other side is worse? What kind of medal do you get with that, how is that better than taking melatonin?

                  CopperC Offline
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                  Copper
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                  #12

                  @aqua-letifer said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                  @loki said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                  @aqua-letifer said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                  What in the fuck do you call that? Letting off some steam?

                  Honestly I call it too familiar language and now we have a perfect opportunity to put it to an end forever.

                  It is completely intolerable and everyone who does it should pay a high price for it.

                  That's an extremely good perspective to have.

                  As opposed to the game of "t3h liberalllls are wooorse!" because that fucking helps everything. At the very least it makes me feel better about my own side and that's what's important. Circle those wagons.

                  Let's count all the riots in the last 1, 5, 10, 20, 50, 100 years - take your pick.

                  Then let's assign blame to either left or right.

                  The right has no chance.

                  Without actually counting, I'd say the ratio is over 50-1, maybe as much as 200-1, just a guess.

                  The left is way worse.

                  And you know it.

                  This exercise would be like comparing the regular flu to the wu-flu.

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                  • CopperC Copper

                    @aqua-letifer said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                    @loki said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                    @aqua-letifer said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                    What in the fuck do you call that? Letting off some steam?

                    Honestly I call it too familiar language and now we have a perfect opportunity to put it to an end forever.

                    It is completely intolerable and everyone who does it should pay a high price for it.

                    That's an extremely good perspective to have.

                    As opposed to the game of "t3h liberalllls are wooorse!" because that fucking helps everything. At the very least it makes me feel better about my own side and that's what's important. Circle those wagons.

                    Let's count all the riots in the last 1, 5, 10, 20, 50, 100 years - take your pick.

                    Then let's assign blame to either left or right.

                    The right has no chance.

                    Without actually counting, I'd say the ratio is over 50-1, maybe as much as 200-1, just a guess.

                    The left is way worse.

                    And you know it.

                    This exercise would be like comparing the regular flu to the wu-flu.

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                    xenon
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #13

                    @copper said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                    @aqua-letifer said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                    @loki said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                    @aqua-letifer said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                    What in the fuck do you call that? Letting off some steam?

                    Honestly I call it too familiar language and now we have a perfect opportunity to put it to an end forever.

                    It is completely intolerable and everyone who does it should pay a high price for it.

                    That's an extremely good perspective to have.

                    As opposed to the game of "t3h liberalllls are wooorse!" because that fucking helps everything. At the very least it makes me feel better about my own side and that's what's important. Circle those wagons.

                    Let's count all the riots in the last 1, 5, 10, 20, 50, 100 years - take your pick.

                    Then let's assign blame to either left or right.

                    The right has no chance.

                    Without actually counting, I'd say the ratio is over 50-1, maybe as much as 200-1, just a guess.

                    The left is way worse.

                    And you know it.

                    This exercise would be like comparing the regular flu to the wu-flu.

                    Right. So the argument is that the “right” has riot and insurrection credits to cash in.

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #14
                      1. This isn’t about trying to make one side come off better or worse. This is just pointing out the hypocrisy regarding views of the two two transitions, the threat of violence this week is not unprecedented if we see violence on Wednesday it won’t be something brand new, but a result of seeds sewn 4 years ago.

                      2. The number one difference between the right wing criminals from January 6th and the left wing criminals from 17, and earlier this year? The right wing asshats partially succeeded and the left wing asshats didn’t. The left shouldn’t be let off just because they failed. There is no ethical or moral superiority for failure. Their intentions were remarkably similar.

                      The Brad

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                        #15

                        For me the peaceful transition of power issue has always been a sitting president refusing to accept his loss and vowing never to concede.

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad
                          1. This isn’t about trying to make one side come off better or worse. This is just pointing out the hypocrisy regarding views of the two two transitions, the threat of violence this week is not unprecedented if we see violence on Wednesday it won’t be something brand new, but a result of seeds sewn 4 years ago.

                          2. The number one difference between the right wing criminals from January 6th and the left wing criminals from 17, and earlier this year? The right wing asshats partially succeeded and the left wing asshats didn’t. The left shouldn’t be let off just because they failed. There is no ethical or moral superiority for failure. Their intentions were remarkably similar.

                          George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #16

                          @lufins-dad said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                          a result of seeds sewn 4 years ago.

                          Your memory is so short:

                          Link to video

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Aqua Letifer
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                            #17

                            @lufins-dad said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                            The left shouldn’t be let off just because they failed. There is no ethical or moral superiority for failure. Their intentions were remarkably similar.

                            To me it's weird when unprecedented events like this happen (that is, a violent invasion of the Capitol that delays an electoral process) and the most common topic of conversation isn't "this kind of violence needs to stop everywhere" but "count the hypocrisies."

                            I don't understand why the latter message is that much more important.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad
                              1. This isn’t about trying to make one side come off better or worse. This is just pointing out the hypocrisy regarding views of the two two transitions, the threat of violence this week is not unprecedented if we see violence on Wednesday it won’t be something brand new, but a result of seeds sewn 4 years ago.

                              2. The number one difference between the right wing criminals from January 6th and the left wing criminals from 17, and earlier this year? The right wing asshats partially succeeded and the left wing asshats didn’t. The left shouldn’t be let off just because they failed. There is no ethical or moral superiority for failure. Their intentions were remarkably similar.

                              jon-nycJ Online
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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #18

                              @lufins-dad said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                              The number one difference between the right wing criminals from January 6th and the left wing criminals from 17, and earlier this year? The right wing asshats were there as a result of a systematic disinformation campaign led by the President of the United States.

                              NNTTM

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                @lufins-dad said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                                The left shouldn’t be let off just because they failed. There is no ethical or moral superiority for failure. Their intentions were remarkably similar.

                                To me it's weird when unprecedented events like this happen (that is, a violent invasion of the Capitol that delays an electoral process) and the most common topic of conversation isn't "this kind of violence needs to stop everywhere" but "count the hypocrisies."

                                I don't understand why the latter message is that much more important.

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                                Rich
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                                #19

                                @aqua-letifer One partial reason is because not sufficiently calling out or holding to account leftist riots contributed to the bullshit but we saw January 6th.

                                It’s helped established the rules of the game so to speak. “Hey, as long as we’re in a big enough crowd, we can do what the fuck ever!”

                                If this is what it takes for all violent protests to get dealt with correctly...fine.

                                But I really don’t appreciate having the world*at large nodding in agreement that the one fucking time a bunch of conservatives go ape shit represents us as a whole...While the dozens of such incidents from protesters on the left don’t.

                                *(Not you specifically...I know you’re brighter than that)

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                                  xenon
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                                  #20

                                  I’m not really that concerned about the bumbling insurrectionists or the inept CHAZ zone occupiers. (Though that was messed up)

                                  They should both have the book thrown at them.

                                  I was disgusted by the elected local officials that supported CHAZ. (There’s some real idiots here in Seattle)

                                  I’m disgusted by the national elected officials that give cover to this “stop the steal” bullshit.

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                                  • X xenon

                                    I’m not really that concerned about the bumbling insurrectionists or the inept CHAZ zone occupiers. (Though that was messed up)

                                    They should both have the book thrown at them.

                                    I was disgusted by the elected local officials that supported CHAZ. (There’s some real idiots here in Seattle)

                                    I’m disgusted by the national elected officials that give cover to this “stop the steal” bullshit.

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                                    Aqua Letifer
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                                    #21

                                    @xenon said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                                    I was disgusted by the elected local officials that supported CHAZ. (There’s some real idiots here in Seattle)
                                    I’m disgusted by the national elected officials that give cover to this “stop the steal” bullshit.

                                    I honestly don't know anyone here who would disagree, so I don't understand why we keep pretending like there's this invisible mass who does.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      @lufins-dad said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                                      a result of seeds sewn 4 years ago.

                                      Your memory is so short:

                                      Link to video

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                                      @george-k said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                                      @lufins-dad said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                                      a result of seeds sewn 4 years ago.

                                      Your memory is so short:

                                      Imagine how interesting it would have been if Bush v. Gore happened in 2004 after Gore's first term.

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                                        LuFins Dad
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                                        @aqua-letifer said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                                        @lufins-dad said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                                        The left shouldn’t be let off just because they failed. There is no ethical or moral superiority for failure. Their intentions were remarkably similar.

                                        To me it's weird when unprecedented events like this happen (that is, a violent invasion of the Capitol that delays an electoral process) and the most common topic of conversation isn't "this kind of violence needs to stop everywhere" but "count the hypocrisies."

                                        I don't understand why the latter message is that much more important.

                                        Pretty much most of us on the conservative side immediately condemned ALL political violence, only to be told repeatedly over the last 10 days that you cannot compare the two.

                                        The Brad

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                                        • X xenon

                                          I’m not really that concerned about the bumbling insurrectionists or the inept CHAZ zone occupiers. (Though that was messed up)

                                          They should both have the book thrown at them.

                                          I was disgusted by the elected local officials that supported CHAZ. (There’s some real idiots here in Seattle)

                                          I’m disgusted by the national elected officials that give cover to this “stop the steal” bullshit.

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #24

                                          @xenon said in Peaceful Transition of Power:

                                          I’m not really that concerned about the bumbling insurrectionists or the inept CHAZ zone occupiers. (Though that was messed up)

                                          They should both have the book thrown at them.

                                          I was disgusted by the elected local officials that supported CHAZ. (There’s some real idiots here in Seattle)

                                          I’m disgusted by the national elected officials that give cover to this “stop the steal” bullshit.

                                          Agreed.

                                          The Brad

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