"I won't make fun of you...."
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If this is a big company, then they should be able to report him.
Of course, their career's likely over if they do that.
wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 01:53 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in "I won't make fun of you....":
If this is a big company, then they should be able to report him.
Of course, their career's likely over if they do that.
It's not. Small, small company. Perhaps 10 employees?
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wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 02:24 last edited by
It's hard to know what to do. If she complains and he isn't fired, it will likely just make her life worse.
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It's hard to know what to do. If she complains and he isn't fired, it will likely just make her life worse.
wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 02:31 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in "I won't make fun of you....":
he isn't fired,
He won't be.
His mother owns the company, and he runs it. As I said, small, small outfit.
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wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 02:34 last edited by
Ditch this “family run” business and go work for a big corporation with a proper HR department.
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Ditch this “family run” business and go work for a big corporation with a proper HR department.
wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 13:50 last edited by@axtremus said in "I won't make fun of you....":
Ditch this “family run” business and go work for a big corporation with a proper HR department.
Yes, but file a lawsuit.
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@axtremus said in "I won't make fun of you....":
Ditch this “family run” business and go work for a big corporation with a proper HR department.
Yes, but file a lawsuit.
wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 13:54 last edited by@mark said in "I won't make fun of you....":
@axtremus said in "I won't make fun of you....":
Ditch this “family run” business and go work for a big corporation with a proper HR department.
Yes, but file a lawsuit.
You can do that, but in many states “small businesses” are exempt from some labor rules so it may be harder to sue successfully.
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wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 13:59 last edited by
If I was a lawyer, I wouldn't hang my hat on this one. Can be interpreted more than one way and demonstrable harm would be hard to prove.
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A good tongue lashing should suffice to put said boss in their place. Stupid remarks should not be the stuff of lawsuits.
wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 14:25 last edited by Catseye3 1 Dec 2021, 14:28@mik said in "I won't make fun of you....":
Stupid remarks should not be the stuff of lawsuits.
I'm with Mik and also Ax on this. We really can't go crying to the system every time our feelings get hurt.
It's actually kind of snowflakey.
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If I was a lawyer, I wouldn't hang my hat on this one. Can be interpreted more than one way and demonstrable harm would be hard to prove.
wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 14:41 last edited by@jolly said in "I won't make fun of you....":
If I was a lawyer, I wouldn't hang my hat on this one. Can be interpreted more than one way and demonstrable harm would be hard to prove.
I believe a pattern of behavior needs to be shown in many types of cases.
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wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 14:46 last edited by
If you're going through chemotherapy, the last thing you need is more stress, such as looking for a new job, or getting into an HR-related battle.
I wouldn't say this is snowflakey - she is going through a ton of shit already. A comment like that wouldn't bother me, but I'm losing my hair already. For some people it would be very upsetting.
The way I would handle it is I'd ask for a meeting with the person who made the comment, and I would point out to them how hurtful the remark was - "I don't know if you realised, but what you said was very hurtful" type of approach. If it re-occurs, then he hasn't got the 'I was only joking' excuse.
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If you're going through chemotherapy, the last thing you need is more stress, such as looking for a new job, or getting into an HR-related battle.
I wouldn't say this is snowflakey - she is going through a ton of shit already. A comment like that wouldn't bother me, but I'm losing my hair already. For some people it would be very upsetting.
The way I would handle it is I'd ask for a meeting with the person who made the comment, and I would point out to them how hurtful the remark was - "I don't know if you realised, but what you said was very hurtful" type of approach. If it re-occurs, then he hasn't got the 'I was only joking' excuse.
wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 16:35 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in "I won't make fun of you....":
If you're going through chemotherapy, the last thing you need is more stress, such as looking for a new job, or getting into an HR-related battle.
I wouldn't say this is snowflakey - she is going through a ton of shit already. A comment like that wouldn't bother me, but I'm losing my hair already. For some people it would be very upsetting.
The way I would handle it is I'd ask for a meeting with the person who made the comment, and I would point out to them how hurtful the remark was - "I don't know if you realised, but what you said was very hurtful" type of approach. If it re-occurs, then he hasn't got the 'I was only joking' excuse.
Perfect.
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If you're going through chemotherapy, the last thing you need is more stress, such as looking for a new job, or getting into an HR-related battle.
I wouldn't say this is snowflakey - she is going through a ton of shit already. A comment like that wouldn't bother me, but I'm losing my hair already. For some people it would be very upsetting.
The way I would handle it is I'd ask for a meeting with the person who made the comment, and I would point out to them how hurtful the remark was - "I don't know if you realised, but what you said was very hurtful" type of approach. If it re-occurs, then he hasn't got the 'I was only joking' excuse.
wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 16:38 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in "I won't make fun of you....":
I would point out to them how hurtful the remark was - "I don't know if you realised, but what you said was very hurtful" type of approach. If it re-occurs, then he hasn't got the 'I was only joking' excuse.
Yeah, okay. Then as an end note, go upside his head with a stapler.
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If you're going through chemotherapy, the last thing you need is more stress, such as looking for a new job, or getting into an HR-related battle.
I wouldn't say this is snowflakey - she is going through a ton of shit already. A comment like that wouldn't bother me, but I'm losing my hair already. For some people it would be very upsetting.
The way I would handle it is I'd ask for a meeting with the person who made the comment, and I would point out to them how hurtful the remark was - "I don't know if you realised, but what you said was very hurtful" type of approach. If it re-occurs, then he hasn't got the 'I was only joking' excuse.
wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 16:47 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in "I won't make fun of you....":
The way I would handle it is I'd ask for a meeting with the person who made the comment, and I would point out to them how hurtful the remark was - "I don't know if you realised, but what you said was very hurtful" type of approach. If it re-occurs, then he hasn't got the 'I was only joking' excuse.
I think I had an online corporate training program on this issue that suggested that very response. While also making it clear that you can always go to HR if you'd like to.
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wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 16:53 last edited by
Set his car on fire?
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Set his car on fire?
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@doctor-phibes said in "I won't make fun of you....":
@aqua-letifer said in "I won't make fun of you....":
Set his car on fire?
Empty, or with him in it?
Is that an incitement to violence?
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wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 17:31 last edited by
No, it was a trap. If he said 'with him in it', I was going to report Aqua to the FBI.
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No, it was a trap. If he said 'with him in it', I was going to report Aqua to the FBI.
wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 17:39 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in "I won't make fun of you....":
No, it was a trap. If he said 'with him in it', I was going to report Aqua to the FBI.
I do believe I phrased my response in the form of a question, condoning neither implicitly nor explicitly an incitement to violence, destruction of property, or any other legal infraction generally.
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wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 17:44 last edited by
I shall of course advise the FBI accordingly.
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Set his car on fire?
wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 17:45 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in "I won't make fun of you....":
Set his car on fire?
I'm in.
I prefer the direct approach.