"I won't make fun of you...."
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As insensitive as it reads without further context, I can imagine that being a friendly quip, a sort of inside joke, between two long-time friends after one of them gets cancer sever enough to warrant chemotherapy.
wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 01:31 last edited by@axtremus said in "I won't make fun of you....":
can imagine that being a friendly quip, a sort of inside joke, between two long-time friends
They are not.
They are employer and employee. They have no social relationship.
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wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 01:33 last edited by Doctor Phibes 1 Dec 2021, 01:36
Lawsuit. Get the asshole fired.
People like this ruin the workplace, in my experience.
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wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 01:38 last edited by
I worked somewhere, and a woman took an extended time off for skin cancer treatment. When she returned, still showing pretty nasty looking scars my boss said 'You were off for so long, I didn't think you were coming back!'.
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I worked somewhere, and a woman took an extended time off for skin cancer treatment. When she returned, still showing pretty nasty looking scars my boss said 'You were off for so long, I didn't think you were coming back!'.
wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 01:39 last edited by@doctor-phibes what was the fallout from that?
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@doctor-phibes what was the fallout from that?
wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 01:45 last edited by@george-k said in "I won't make fun of you....":
@doctor-phibes what was the fallout from that?
Nothing, other than a very upset employee. The guy was a real shithead. Incidentally, he made my work life a living hell for about 5 years. In retrospect I realise I ended up suffering from depression because of him, and he made numerous people's lives an absolute misery - some people left, one guy had to take time off for clinical depression.
He'd worked there for decades, and was pretty much untouchable. The worst combination of arrogance and incompetence I've ever come across.
Sorry, I didn't mean to go off on a rant.
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wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 01:49 last edited by
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wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 01:52 last edited by
If this is a big company, then they should be able to report him.
Of course, their career's likely over if they do that.
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If this is a big company, then they should be able to report him.
Of course, their career's likely over if they do that.
wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 01:53 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in "I won't make fun of you....":
If this is a big company, then they should be able to report him.
Of course, their career's likely over if they do that.
It's not. Small, small company. Perhaps 10 employees?
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wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 02:24 last edited by
It's hard to know what to do. If she complains and he isn't fired, it will likely just make her life worse.
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It's hard to know what to do. If she complains and he isn't fired, it will likely just make her life worse.
wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 02:31 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in "I won't make fun of you....":
he isn't fired,
He won't be.
His mother owns the company, and he runs it. As I said, small, small outfit.
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wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 02:34 last edited by
Ditch this “family run” business and go work for a big corporation with a proper HR department.
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Ditch this “family run” business and go work for a big corporation with a proper HR department.
wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 13:50 last edited by@axtremus said in "I won't make fun of you....":
Ditch this “family run” business and go work for a big corporation with a proper HR department.
Yes, but file a lawsuit.
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@axtremus said in "I won't make fun of you....":
Ditch this “family run” business and go work for a big corporation with a proper HR department.
Yes, but file a lawsuit.
wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 13:54 last edited by@mark said in "I won't make fun of you....":
@axtremus said in "I won't make fun of you....":
Ditch this “family run” business and go work for a big corporation with a proper HR department.
Yes, but file a lawsuit.
You can do that, but in many states “small businesses” are exempt from some labor rules so it may be harder to sue successfully.
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wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 13:59 last edited by
If I was a lawyer, I wouldn't hang my hat on this one. Can be interpreted more than one way and demonstrable harm would be hard to prove.
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A good tongue lashing should suffice to put said boss in their place. Stupid remarks should not be the stuff of lawsuits.
wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 14:25 last edited by Catseye3 1 Dec 2021, 14:28@mik said in "I won't make fun of you....":
Stupid remarks should not be the stuff of lawsuits.
I'm with Mik and also Ax on this. We really can't go crying to the system every time our feelings get hurt.
It's actually kind of snowflakey.
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If I was a lawyer, I wouldn't hang my hat on this one. Can be interpreted more than one way and demonstrable harm would be hard to prove.
wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 14:41 last edited by@jolly said in "I won't make fun of you....":
If I was a lawyer, I wouldn't hang my hat on this one. Can be interpreted more than one way and demonstrable harm would be hard to prove.
I believe a pattern of behavior needs to be shown in many types of cases.
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wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 14:46 last edited by
If you're going through chemotherapy, the last thing you need is more stress, such as looking for a new job, or getting into an HR-related battle.
I wouldn't say this is snowflakey - she is going through a ton of shit already. A comment like that wouldn't bother me, but I'm losing my hair already. For some people it would be very upsetting.
The way I would handle it is I'd ask for a meeting with the person who made the comment, and I would point out to them how hurtful the remark was - "I don't know if you realised, but what you said was very hurtful" type of approach. If it re-occurs, then he hasn't got the 'I was only joking' excuse.
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If you're going through chemotherapy, the last thing you need is more stress, such as looking for a new job, or getting into an HR-related battle.
I wouldn't say this is snowflakey - she is going through a ton of shit already. A comment like that wouldn't bother me, but I'm losing my hair already. For some people it would be very upsetting.
The way I would handle it is I'd ask for a meeting with the person who made the comment, and I would point out to them how hurtful the remark was - "I don't know if you realised, but what you said was very hurtful" type of approach. If it re-occurs, then he hasn't got the 'I was only joking' excuse.
wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 16:35 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in "I won't make fun of you....":
If you're going through chemotherapy, the last thing you need is more stress, such as looking for a new job, or getting into an HR-related battle.
I wouldn't say this is snowflakey - she is going through a ton of shit already. A comment like that wouldn't bother me, but I'm losing my hair already. For some people it would be very upsetting.
The way I would handle it is I'd ask for a meeting with the person who made the comment, and I would point out to them how hurtful the remark was - "I don't know if you realised, but what you said was very hurtful" type of approach. If it re-occurs, then he hasn't got the 'I was only joking' excuse.
Perfect.
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If you're going through chemotherapy, the last thing you need is more stress, such as looking for a new job, or getting into an HR-related battle.
I wouldn't say this is snowflakey - she is going through a ton of shit already. A comment like that wouldn't bother me, but I'm losing my hair already. For some people it would be very upsetting.
The way I would handle it is I'd ask for a meeting with the person who made the comment, and I would point out to them how hurtful the remark was - "I don't know if you realised, but what you said was very hurtful" type of approach. If it re-occurs, then he hasn't got the 'I was only joking' excuse.
wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 16:38 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in "I won't make fun of you....":
I would point out to them how hurtful the remark was - "I don't know if you realised, but what you said was very hurtful" type of approach. If it re-occurs, then he hasn't got the 'I was only joking' excuse.
Yeah, okay. Then as an end note, go upside his head with a stapler.
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If you're going through chemotherapy, the last thing you need is more stress, such as looking for a new job, or getting into an HR-related battle.
I wouldn't say this is snowflakey - she is going through a ton of shit already. A comment like that wouldn't bother me, but I'm losing my hair already. For some people it would be very upsetting.
The way I would handle it is I'd ask for a meeting with the person who made the comment, and I would point out to them how hurtful the remark was - "I don't know if you realised, but what you said was very hurtful" type of approach. If it re-occurs, then he hasn't got the 'I was only joking' excuse.
wrote on 12 Jan 2021, 16:47 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in "I won't make fun of you....":
The way I would handle it is I'd ask for a meeting with the person who made the comment, and I would point out to them how hurtful the remark was - "I don't know if you realised, but what you said was very hurtful" type of approach. If it re-occurs, then he hasn't got the 'I was only joking' excuse.
I think I had an online corporate training program on this issue that suggested that very response. While also making it clear that you can always go to HR if you'd like to.