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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

    @axtremus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

    Deleting Parler’s DNS entries is over the line.
    The owner of the Parler.com domain should continue to have control over its DNS listing.

    Tried to buy “Parler.com” through a couple of web hosting shops and both reported that “Parler.com” is already taken, so hopefully the rightful owner of that domain name still owns it.

    Do you know more about the DNS system?

    This is the whois entry on parler.com:

    class name: domain
    handle: 1336588_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
    LDH (letters, digits, hyphens) name: PARLER.COM
    name: 
    type: 
    port 43 service: 
    
    Entities:
    - Handle: 617
    - Role: registrar
    - IANA Registrar ID: 617
      - Version: 4.0
      - Type: fn, Content: Epik Inc.
    
    Nameservers:
    - Object Classname: nameserver
    - LDH Name: NS3.EPIK.COM
    - Object Classname: nameserver
    - LDH Name: NS4.EPIK.COM
    
    DNSSEC:
    - Domain name is not signed
    - Domain name is not signed
    - Delegation signed: 
    - Max sig life: 
    - Keytag: 
    - Algorithm: 13
    - Digest Type :2
    - Digest: CA6F6FE153855853D9190B41BEFE222D6882AC591F27858DCB9373F0339BBCB7
    
    rdap conformance: 
    - rdap_level_0
    - icann_rdap_technical_implementation_guide_0
    - icann_rdap_response_profile_0
    
    Links:
      - Link: self: https://rdap.verisign.com/com/v1/domain/PARLER.COM ()
      - Link: related: https://rdap-whois.epik.com/domain/PARLER.COM ()
    
    Notices:
    - Terms of Use: 
      - Description: Service subject to Terms of Use.
      - Link: : https://www.verisign.com/domain-names/registration-data-access-protocol/terms-service/index.xhtml ()
    - Status Codes: 
      - Description: For more information on domain status codes, please visit https://icann.org/epp
      - Link: : https://icann.org/epp ()
    - RDDS Inaccuracy Complaint Form: 
      - Description: URL of the ICANN RDDS Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://icann.org/wicf
      - Link: : https://icann.org/wicf ()
    
    Statuses:
    - Status: client transfer prohibited
    
    Events:
      - registration: 1998-05-28T04:00:00Z
      - expiration: 2022-05-27T04:00:00Z
      - last update of RDAP database: 2021-01-12T11:48:43Z
    

    Looks pretty "empty" to me. Only the name of the company that seems to manage the DNS entry, "Epik", is given.

    Epik is brand new for Parler.

    George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #42

    @jolly https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/parler-finds-refuge-with-right-leaning-webhosting-service

    On Monday, Parler registered its domain and server to be hosted by Epik, an internet webhosting company known for working with right-leaning websites. Gab, another social media platform popular with conservatives, also uses Epik. A web domain search shows that Parler is now registered with Epik.

    Epik put out a statement on Monday claiming it had no discussion of providing future services to Parler. Epik did acknowledge, however, that Parler was "working on satisfying the requested terms placed upon them."

    Epik also defended Parler and said that it was being unfairly treated in comparison to its larger competitors Twitter and Facebook, which create an "undeniable double standard" when it comes to their policing and enforcement of content.

    Earlier Monday, Amazon stopped providing cloud services to Parler, causing the website to go offline. Apple and Google have also removed the Parler app from their platforms. These actions have brought the platform to a standstill, just days after it was the most downloaded application in the country on Friday.

    Parler sued Amazon on Monday, alleging that the tech giant's actions are unfair, anti-competitive, and politically motivated because Amazon has not taken any action against Twitter for similar violent content on its platform. Twitter is also a client of Amazon Web Services business for hosting websites.

    In its lawsuit, Parler claimed that, without Amazon's support, "Parler is finished as it has no way to get online." Parler also said that switching to a different service provider, like Epik, in order to host its platform would require significant changes to its website, which would cause the website to go offline for a "financially devastating period."

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      @jolly https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/parler-finds-refuge-with-right-leaning-webhosting-service

      On Monday, Parler registered its domain and server to be hosted by Epik, an internet webhosting company known for working with right-leaning websites. Gab, another social media platform popular with conservatives, also uses Epik. A web domain search shows that Parler is now registered with Epik.

      Epik put out a statement on Monday claiming it had no discussion of providing future services to Parler. Epik did acknowledge, however, that Parler was "working on satisfying the requested terms placed upon them."

      Epik also defended Parler and said that it was being unfairly treated in comparison to its larger competitors Twitter and Facebook, which create an "undeniable double standard" when it comes to their policing and enforcement of content.

      Earlier Monday, Amazon stopped providing cloud services to Parler, causing the website to go offline. Apple and Google have also removed the Parler app from their platforms. These actions have brought the platform to a standstill, just days after it was the most downloaded application in the country on Friday.

      Parler sued Amazon on Monday, alleging that the tech giant's actions are unfair, anti-competitive, and politically motivated because Amazon has not taken any action against Twitter for similar violent content on its platform. Twitter is also a client of Amazon Web Services business for hosting websites.

      In its lawsuit, Parler claimed that, without Amazon's support, "Parler is finished as it has no way to get online." Parler also said that switching to a different service provider, like Epik, in order to host its platform would require significant changes to its website, which would cause the website to go offline for a "financially devastating period."

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      Klaus
      wrote on last edited by
      #43

      @george-k said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

      In its lawsuit, Parler claimed that, without Amazon's support, "Parler is finished as it has no way to get online." Parler also said that switching to a different service provider, like Epik, in order to host its platform would require significant changes to its website, which would cause the website to go offline for a "financially devastating period."

      Wait a second, didn't Parler claim elsewhere that it will take them a week at most to move to a different cloud service?

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      • AxtremusA Away
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        Axtremus
        wrote on last edited by
        #44

        The overall DNS infrastructure still points to Epik's servers (ns3.epik.com, ns4.epik.com) as authoritative for the "Parler.com" domain. Per the article @George-K quoted, Parler has registered with Epik. So it looks like overall DNS as a system is still on the up and up, no one is "blocking" or misdirecting the DNS lookups for "Parler.com". It's Epik's name servers that return 0.0.0.0 for "Parler.com", so that's strictly between Epik and Parler.

        If the deal with Epik falls through, Parler should still be able to get access to the Internet, get a couple of static IP addresses, then it can run its own servers and make its own servers the authoritative name servers.

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #45

          And how long does that take?

          We're talking 9,000,000 subscribers, growing by 600,000 per day.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            Half-billion dollar company wiped out in 24 hours.

            Enjoy!

            89th8 Offline
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            89th
            wrote on last edited by
            #46

            @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

            Half-billion dollar company wiped out in 24 hours.
            Enjoy!

            I wonder if Trump is proud of his negative effect, he's like the anti-King Midas.

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            • 89th8 89th

              @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

              Half-billion dollar company wiped out in 24 hours.
              Enjoy!

              I wonder if Trump is proud of his negative effect, he's like the anti-King Midas.

              JollyJ Offline
              JollyJ Offline
              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #47

              @89th said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

              @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

              Half-billion dollar company wiped out in 24 hours.
              Enjoy!

              I wonder if Trump is proud of his negative effect, he's like the anti-King Midas.

              I wonder if you'll actually consider how much this resembles the modern manifestation of McCarthyism?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @89th said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                Half-billion dollar company wiped out in 24 hours.
                Enjoy!

                I wonder if Trump is proud of his negative effect, he's like the anti-King Midas.

                I wonder if you'll actually consider how much this resembles the modern manifestation of McCarthyism?

                Doctor PhibesD Offline
                Doctor PhibesD Offline
                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on last edited by
                #48

                @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                @89th said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                Half-billion dollar company wiped out in 24 hours.
                Enjoy!

                I wonder if Trump is proud of his negative effect, he's like the anti-King Midas.

                I wonder if you'll actually consider how much this resembles the modern manifestation of McCarthyism?

                Ann Coulter has said that Joe McCarthy was a great American. I wonder if she's on board with the current trend.

                I was only joking

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @89th said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                  @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                  Half-billion dollar company wiped out in 24 hours.
                  Enjoy!

                  I wonder if Trump is proud of his negative effect, he's like the anti-King Midas.

                  I wonder if you'll actually consider how much this resembles the modern manifestation of McCarthyism?

                  89th8 Offline
                  89th8 Offline
                  89th
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #49

                  @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                  @89th said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                  @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                  Half-billion dollar company wiped out in 24 hours.
                  Enjoy!

                  I wonder if Trump is proud of his negative effect, he's like the anti-King Midas.

                  I wonder if you'll actually consider how much this resembles the modern manifestation of McCarthyism?

                  Hey if BLM had stormed the Capitol while it was in session, to try and prevent the election of a Republican, resulting in 5 deaths, etc...and Amazon and other commercial companies decided to deplatform BLM, I’d be fine with it too. I’d imagine so would you?

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                  • KlausK Offline
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                    Klaus
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #50

                    Checked today. Parler is still basically down, except for a static front page.

                    A good software engineer who is worth this money would have managed to set up their software on a different cloud system within a few days.

                    I wonder what's holding them back.

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                    • AxtremusA Away
                      AxtremusA Away
                      Axtremus
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #51

                      Maybe Parler cannot get a good software engineer to work for it?

                      Like Trump cannot get a good lawyer to defend him in his impeachment trial. 🥁

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        Maybe Parler cannot get a good software engineer to work for it?

                        Like Trump cannot get a good lawyer to defend him in his impeachment trial. 🥁

                        KlausK Offline
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                        Klaus
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #52

                        @axtremus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                        Maybe Parler cannot get a good software engineer to work for it?

                        Possibly. I imagine that it could be a big potential disadvantage for a software engineer to have Parler in their resume.

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
                          jon-nycJ Online
                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #53

                          Maybe January 6th scared Rebecca Mercer straight.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            Axtremus
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #54

                            It looks like Parler is back online.

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