Amazon cutting ties with Parler
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What I don't understand is why not only the Parler servers are down, but the parler.com domain is even deleted from the domain name system!
I tried this with both my providers DNS server and Google's.
Usually, Parler should at least be able to control their DNS entry and redirect it to some "Under construction" page, where they can keep people posted about their progress.
I wonder whether somehow "big tech" has managed to purge their DNS entry, too. That would be a new quality of "canceling".
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Deleting Parler’s DNS entries is over the line.
The owner of the Parler.com domain should continue to have control over its DNS listing.Tried to buy “Parler.com” through a couple of web hosting shops and both reported that “Parler.com” is already taken, so hopefully the rightful owner of that domain name still owns it.
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Half-billion dollar company wiped out in 24 hours.
Enjoy!
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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Deleting Parler’s DNS entries is over the line.
The owner of the Parler.com domain should continue to have control over its DNS listing.Tried to buy “Parler.com” through a couple of web hosting shops and both reported that “Parler.com” is already taken, so hopefully the rightful owner of that domain name still owns it.
@axtremus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
Deleting Parler’s DNS entries is over the line.
The owner of the Parler.com domain should continue to have control over its DNS listing.Tried to buy “Parler.com” through a couple of web hosting shops and both reported that “Parler.com” is already taken, so hopefully the rightful owner of that domain name still owns it.
Do you know more about the DNS system?
This is the whois entry on parler.com:
class name: domain handle: 1336588_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN LDH (letters, digits, hyphens) name: PARLER.COM name: type: port 43 service: Entities: - Handle: 617 - Role: registrar - IANA Registrar ID: 617 - Version: 4.0 - Type: fn, Content: Epik Inc. Nameservers: - Object Classname: nameserver - LDH Name: NS3.EPIK.COM - Object Classname: nameserver - LDH Name: NS4.EPIK.COM DNSSEC: - Domain name is not signed - Domain name is not signed - Delegation signed: - Max sig life: - Keytag: - Algorithm: 13 - Digest Type :2 - Digest: CA6F6FE153855853D9190B41BEFE222D6882AC591F27858DCB9373F0339BBCB7 rdap conformance: - rdap_level_0 - icann_rdap_technical_implementation_guide_0 - icann_rdap_response_profile_0 Links: - Link: self: https://rdap.verisign.com/com/v1/domain/PARLER.COM () - Link: related: https://rdap-whois.epik.com/domain/PARLER.COM () Notices: - Terms of Use: - Description: Service subject to Terms of Use. - Link: : https://www.verisign.com/domain-names/registration-data-access-protocol/terms-service/index.xhtml () - Status Codes: - Description: For more information on domain status codes, please visit https://icann.org/epp - Link: : https://icann.org/epp () - RDDS Inaccuracy Complaint Form: - Description: URL of the ICANN RDDS Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://icann.org/wicf - Link: : https://icann.org/wicf () Statuses: - Status: client transfer prohibited Events: - registration: 1998-05-28T04:00:00Z - expiration: 2022-05-27T04:00:00Z - last update of RDAP database: 2021-01-12T11:48:43ZLooks pretty "empty" to me. Only the name of the company that seems to manage the DNS entry, "Epik", is given.
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@axtremus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
Deleting Parler’s DNS entries is over the line.
The owner of the Parler.com domain should continue to have control over its DNS listing.Tried to buy “Parler.com” through a couple of web hosting shops and both reported that “Parler.com” is already taken, so hopefully the rightful owner of that domain name still owns it.
Do you know more about the DNS system?
This is the whois entry on parler.com:
class name: domain handle: 1336588_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN LDH (letters, digits, hyphens) name: PARLER.COM name: type: port 43 service: Entities: - Handle: 617 - Role: registrar - IANA Registrar ID: 617 - Version: 4.0 - Type: fn, Content: Epik Inc. Nameservers: - Object Classname: nameserver - LDH Name: NS3.EPIK.COM - Object Classname: nameserver - LDH Name: NS4.EPIK.COM DNSSEC: - Domain name is not signed - Domain name is not signed - Delegation signed: - Max sig life: - Keytag: - Algorithm: 13 - Digest Type :2 - Digest: CA6F6FE153855853D9190B41BEFE222D6882AC591F27858DCB9373F0339BBCB7 rdap conformance: - rdap_level_0 - icann_rdap_technical_implementation_guide_0 - icann_rdap_response_profile_0 Links: - Link: self: https://rdap.verisign.com/com/v1/domain/PARLER.COM () - Link: related: https://rdap-whois.epik.com/domain/PARLER.COM () Notices: - Terms of Use: - Description: Service subject to Terms of Use. - Link: : https://www.verisign.com/domain-names/registration-data-access-protocol/terms-service/index.xhtml () - Status Codes: - Description: For more information on domain status codes, please visit https://icann.org/epp - Link: : https://icann.org/epp () - RDDS Inaccuracy Complaint Form: - Description: URL of the ICANN RDDS Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://icann.org/wicf - Link: : https://icann.org/wicf () Statuses: - Status: client transfer prohibited Events: - registration: 1998-05-28T04:00:00Z - expiration: 2022-05-27T04:00:00Z - last update of RDAP database: 2021-01-12T11:48:43ZLooks pretty "empty" to me. Only the name of the company that seems to manage the DNS entry, "Epik", is given.
@klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@axtremus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
Deleting Parler’s DNS entries is over the line.
The owner of the Parler.com domain should continue to have control over its DNS listing.Tried to buy “Parler.com” through a couple of web hosting shops and both reported that “Parler.com” is already taken, so hopefully the rightful owner of that domain name still owns it.
Do you know more about the DNS system?
This is the whois entry on parler.com:
class name: domain handle: 1336588_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN LDH (letters, digits, hyphens) name: PARLER.COM name: type: port 43 service: Entities: - Handle: 617 - Role: registrar - IANA Registrar ID: 617 - Version: 4.0 - Type: fn, Content: Epik Inc. Nameservers: - Object Classname: nameserver - LDH Name: NS3.EPIK.COM - Object Classname: nameserver - LDH Name: NS4.EPIK.COM DNSSEC: - Domain name is not signed - Domain name is not signed - Delegation signed: - Max sig life: - Keytag: - Algorithm: 13 - Digest Type :2 - Digest: CA6F6FE153855853D9190B41BEFE222D6882AC591F27858DCB9373F0339BBCB7 rdap conformance: - rdap_level_0 - icann_rdap_technical_implementation_guide_0 - icann_rdap_response_profile_0 Links: - Link: self: https://rdap.verisign.com/com/v1/domain/PARLER.COM () - Link: related: https://rdap-whois.epik.com/domain/PARLER.COM () Notices: - Terms of Use: - Description: Service subject to Terms of Use. - Link: : https://www.verisign.com/domain-names/registration-data-access-protocol/terms-service/index.xhtml () - Status Codes: - Description: For more information on domain status codes, please visit https://icann.org/epp - Link: : https://icann.org/epp () - RDDS Inaccuracy Complaint Form: - Description: URL of the ICANN RDDS Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://icann.org/wicf - Link: : https://icann.org/wicf () Statuses: - Status: client transfer prohibited Events: - registration: 1998-05-28T04:00:00Z - expiration: 2022-05-27T04:00:00Z - last update of RDAP database: 2021-01-12T11:48:43ZLooks pretty "empty" to me. Only the name of the company that seems to manage the DNS entry, "Epik", is given.
Epik is brand new for Parler.
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@klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@axtremus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
Deleting Parler’s DNS entries is over the line.
The owner of the Parler.com domain should continue to have control over its DNS listing.Tried to buy “Parler.com” through a couple of web hosting shops and both reported that “Parler.com” is already taken, so hopefully the rightful owner of that domain name still owns it.
Do you know more about the DNS system?
This is the whois entry on parler.com:
class name: domain handle: 1336588_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN LDH (letters, digits, hyphens) name: PARLER.COM name: type: port 43 service: Entities: - Handle: 617 - Role: registrar - IANA Registrar ID: 617 - Version: 4.0 - Type: fn, Content: Epik Inc. Nameservers: - Object Classname: nameserver - LDH Name: NS3.EPIK.COM - Object Classname: nameserver - LDH Name: NS4.EPIK.COM DNSSEC: - Domain name is not signed - Domain name is not signed - Delegation signed: - Max sig life: - Keytag: - Algorithm: 13 - Digest Type :2 - Digest: CA6F6FE153855853D9190B41BEFE222D6882AC591F27858DCB9373F0339BBCB7 rdap conformance: - rdap_level_0 - icann_rdap_technical_implementation_guide_0 - icann_rdap_response_profile_0 Links: - Link: self: https://rdap.verisign.com/com/v1/domain/PARLER.COM () - Link: related: https://rdap-whois.epik.com/domain/PARLER.COM () Notices: - Terms of Use: - Description: Service subject to Terms of Use. - Link: : https://www.verisign.com/domain-names/registration-data-access-protocol/terms-service/index.xhtml () - Status Codes: - Description: For more information on domain status codes, please visit https://icann.org/epp - Link: : https://icann.org/epp () - RDDS Inaccuracy Complaint Form: - Description: URL of the ICANN RDDS Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://icann.org/wicf - Link: : https://icann.org/wicf () Statuses: - Status: client transfer prohibited Events: - registration: 1998-05-28T04:00:00Z - expiration: 2022-05-27T04:00:00Z - last update of RDAP database: 2021-01-12T11:48:43ZLooks pretty "empty" to me. Only the name of the company that seems to manage the DNS entry, "Epik", is given.
Epik is brand new for Parler.
@jolly https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/parler-finds-refuge-with-right-leaning-webhosting-service
On Monday, Parler registered its domain and server to be hosted by Epik, an internet webhosting company known for working with right-leaning websites. Gab, another social media platform popular with conservatives, also uses Epik. A web domain search shows that Parler is now registered with Epik.
Epik put out a statement on Monday claiming it had no discussion of providing future services to Parler. Epik did acknowledge, however, that Parler was "working on satisfying the requested terms placed upon them."
Epik also defended Parler and said that it was being unfairly treated in comparison to its larger competitors Twitter and Facebook, which create an "undeniable double standard" when it comes to their policing and enforcement of content.
Earlier Monday, Amazon stopped providing cloud services to Parler, causing the website to go offline. Apple and Google have also removed the Parler app from their platforms. These actions have brought the platform to a standstill, just days after it was the most downloaded application in the country on Friday.
Parler sued Amazon on Monday, alleging that the tech giant's actions are unfair, anti-competitive, and politically motivated because Amazon has not taken any action against Twitter for similar violent content on its platform. Twitter is also a client of Amazon Web Services business for hosting websites.
In its lawsuit, Parler claimed that, without Amazon's support, "Parler is finished as it has no way to get online." Parler also said that switching to a different service provider, like Epik, in order to host its platform would require significant changes to its website, which would cause the website to go offline for a "financially devastating period."
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@jolly https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/parler-finds-refuge-with-right-leaning-webhosting-service
On Monday, Parler registered its domain and server to be hosted by Epik, an internet webhosting company known for working with right-leaning websites. Gab, another social media platform popular with conservatives, also uses Epik. A web domain search shows that Parler is now registered with Epik.
Epik put out a statement on Monday claiming it had no discussion of providing future services to Parler. Epik did acknowledge, however, that Parler was "working on satisfying the requested terms placed upon them."
Epik also defended Parler and said that it was being unfairly treated in comparison to its larger competitors Twitter and Facebook, which create an "undeniable double standard" when it comes to their policing and enforcement of content.
Earlier Monday, Amazon stopped providing cloud services to Parler, causing the website to go offline. Apple and Google have also removed the Parler app from their platforms. These actions have brought the platform to a standstill, just days after it was the most downloaded application in the country on Friday.
Parler sued Amazon on Monday, alleging that the tech giant's actions are unfair, anti-competitive, and politically motivated because Amazon has not taken any action against Twitter for similar violent content on its platform. Twitter is also a client of Amazon Web Services business for hosting websites.
In its lawsuit, Parler claimed that, without Amazon's support, "Parler is finished as it has no way to get online." Parler also said that switching to a different service provider, like Epik, in order to host its platform would require significant changes to its website, which would cause the website to go offline for a "financially devastating period."
@george-k said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
In its lawsuit, Parler claimed that, without Amazon's support, "Parler is finished as it has no way to get online." Parler also said that switching to a different service provider, like Epik, in order to host its platform would require significant changes to its website, which would cause the website to go offline for a "financially devastating period."
Wait a second, didn't Parler claim elsewhere that it will take them a week at most to move to a different cloud service?
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The overall DNS infrastructure still points to Epik's servers (ns3.epik.com, ns4.epik.com) as authoritative for the "Parler.com" domain. Per the article @George-K quoted, Parler has registered with Epik. So it looks like overall DNS as a system is still on the up and up, no one is "blocking" or misdirecting the DNS lookups for "Parler.com". It's Epik's name servers that return 0.0.0.0 for "Parler.com", so that's strictly between Epik and Parler.
If the deal with Epik falls through, Parler should still be able to get access to the Internet, get a couple of static IP addresses, then it can run its own servers and make its own servers the authoritative name servers.
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@jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
Half-billion dollar company wiped out in 24 hours.
Enjoy!I wonder if Trump is proud of his negative effect, he's like the anti-King Midas.
@89th said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
Half-billion dollar company wiped out in 24 hours.
Enjoy!I wonder if Trump is proud of his negative effect, he's like the anti-King Midas.
I wonder if you'll actually consider how much this resembles the modern manifestation of McCarthyism?
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@89th said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
Half-billion dollar company wiped out in 24 hours.
Enjoy!I wonder if Trump is proud of his negative effect, he's like the anti-King Midas.
I wonder if you'll actually consider how much this resembles the modern manifestation of McCarthyism?
@jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@89th said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
Half-billion dollar company wiped out in 24 hours.
Enjoy!I wonder if Trump is proud of his negative effect, he's like the anti-King Midas.
I wonder if you'll actually consider how much this resembles the modern manifestation of McCarthyism?
Ann Coulter has said that Joe McCarthy was a great American. I wonder if she's on board with the current trend.
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@89th said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
Half-billion dollar company wiped out in 24 hours.
Enjoy!I wonder if Trump is proud of his negative effect, he's like the anti-King Midas.
I wonder if you'll actually consider how much this resembles the modern manifestation of McCarthyism?
@jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@89th said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
Half-billion dollar company wiped out in 24 hours.
Enjoy!I wonder if Trump is proud of his negative effect, he's like the anti-King Midas.
I wonder if you'll actually consider how much this resembles the modern manifestation of McCarthyism?
Hey if BLM had stormed the Capitol while it was in session, to try and prevent the election of a Republican, resulting in 5 deaths, etc...and Amazon and other commercial companies decided to deplatform BLM, I’d be fine with it too. I’d imagine so would you?
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Maybe Parler cannot get a good software engineer to work for it?
Like Trump cannot get a good lawyer to defend him in his impeachment trial.
