Threw away the dream..

[Doctor Phibes]

Alcohol. It's a hell of a drug.

[jodi]

@mik said in Threw away the dream..:

I suppose there had to be a Florida Man story in there somewhere.

Allan Mestel, who told the channel he was an acquaintance of Johnson, said he had notified the FBI when he recognized the Florida man in the photo.

[Loki]

@doctor-phibes said in Threw away the dream..:

@xenon said in Threw away the dream..:

stay at home dad of 5 kids

He should have stayed at home.

Sounds like his wife supported him.

[Renauda]

I am confident that he was just a concerned citizen who, at the time, wanted to make his presence felt.

[Aqua Letifer]

@renauda said in Threw away the dream..:

I am confident that he was just a concerned citizen who, at the time, wanted to make his presence felt.

I've spent a lot of time looking at videos of the rally, and I have to tell you, this guy looked like just another tourist to me.

[jon-nyc]

Threw away the dream

[Doctor Phibes]

He just looks like a knobhead with a stupid hat to me. Sorry, a knobhead with a plinth, and a stupid hat, and a lot of cheap booze.

[kluurs]

All the other kids were doing it... Again, stupid - but they felt they were acting upon the directive of those who told them the country was being stolen from them - and Joseph Stalin Biden was not the true President. While guilty of poor judgment, they felt they were acting in the best interests of the nation as defined by the President.

[Aqua Letifer]

@kluurs said in Threw away the dream..:

All the other kids were doing it... Again, stupid - but they felt they were acting upon the directive of those who told them the country was being stolen from them - and Joseph Stalin Biden was not the true President. While guilty of poor judgment, they felt they were acting in the best interests of the nation as defined by the President.

LD had a good point awhile back: how many of these folks do you think actually thought they'd get access to the Capitol? I mean, watch the videos of them after they got inside. There was clearly no plan whatsoever.

I really hate what happened, but assuming we take that line of thinking kluurs, would it be better for the country overall if they went easy on the sentencing? Or has all this shit from the past year gone quite far enough and now's the time to get serious about punishing mobs?

[Jolly]

@aqua-letifer said in Threw away the dream..:

@kluurs said in Threw away the dream..:

All the other kids were doing it... Again, stupid - but they felt they were acting upon the directive of those who told them the country was being stolen from them - and Joseph Stalin Biden was not the true President. While guilty of poor judgment, they felt they were acting in the best interests of the nation as defined by the President.

LD had a good point awhile back: how many of these folks do you think actually thought they'd get access to the Capitol? I mean, watch the videos of them after they got inside. There was clearly no plan whatsoever.

I really hate what happened, but assuming we take that line of thinking kluurs, would it be better for the country overall if they went easy on the sentencing? Or has all this shit from the past year gone quite far enough and now's the time to get serious about punishing mobs?

Nah, I'm still holding out for crucifixion.

At Arlington.

[jon-nyc]

You have to think about the moral hazard problem.

Oh, and they beat a federal officer to death with a fire extinguisher.

What do you think they would have done had they captured Pelosi or Pence?

[Aqua Letifer]

@jon-nyc said in Threw away the dream..:

You have to think about the moral hazard problem.

Oh, and they beat a federal officer to death with a fire extinguisher.

What do you think they would have done had they captured Pelosi or Pence?

Well that's another thing, are we going to say they're all the same "they" or prosecute them individually? I'm sure we have the surveillance footage to single people out, right?

[jon-nyc]

Obviously we try them as individuals.

[Aqua Letifer]

@jon-nyc said in Threw away the dream..:

Obviously we try them as individuals.

That would make the death of the police officer completely irrelevant for the guys who just invaded the offices.

[jon-nyc]

@xenon said in Threw away the dream..:

His lawyer said that at his trial he won’t be taking the stand.

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I’ll see myself out.

[89th]

LLOL

[Copper]

@jon-nyc said in Threw away the dream..:

You have to think about the moral hazard problem.

Oh, and they beat a federal officer to death with a fire extinguisher.

What do you think they would have done had they captured Pelosi or Pence?

They had Rand Paul and his wife for a while, but then they let him go.

[Renauda]

How sportingly white of the rampaging mob to extend the Pauls' that level of common decency. I am sure they recognized them as fellow libertarians.

[Horace]

@jon-nyc said in Threw away the dream..:

You have to think about the moral hazard problem.

Oh, and they beat a federal officer to death with a fire extinguisher.

What do you think they would have done had they captured Pelosi or Pence?

I imagine the murderer thought they were in a physical fight. I don't imagine Pelosi or Pence presenting themselves as being in a physical fight.

[Copper]

@renauda said in Threw away the dream..:

How sportingly white of the rampaging mob to extend the Pauls' that level of common decency. I am sure they recognized them as fellow libertarians.

It was in all the papers

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/514103-sen-rand-paul-says-he-and-his-wife-were-attacked-by-an-angry-mob-leaving

If you are interested in the races involved you can watch the video (the whites misbehaved, as expected)