Threw away the dream..
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@renauda said in Threw away the dream..:
I am confident that he was just a concerned citizen who, at the time, wanted to make his presence felt.
I've spent a lot of time looking at videos of the rally, and I have to tell you, this guy looked like just another tourist to me.
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He just looks like a knobhead with a stupid hat to me. Sorry, a knobhead with a plinth, and a stupid hat, and a lot of cheap booze.
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All the other kids were doing it... Again, stupid - but they felt they were acting upon the directive of those who told them the country was being stolen from them - and Joseph
StalinBiden was not the true President. While guilty of poor judgment, they felt they were acting in the best interests of the nation as defined by the President. -
@kluurs said in Threw away the dream..:
All the other kids were doing it... Again, stupid - but they felt they were acting upon the directive of those who told them the country was being stolen from them - and Joseph
StalinBiden was not the true President. While guilty of poor judgment, they felt they were acting in the best interests of the nation as defined by the President.LD had a good point awhile back: how many of these folks do you think actually thought they'd get access to the Capitol? I mean, watch the videos of them after they got inside. There was clearly no plan whatsoever.
I really hate what happened, but assuming we take that line of thinking kluurs, would it be better for the country overall if they went easy on the sentencing? Or has all this shit from the past year gone quite far enough and now's the time to get serious about punishing mobs?
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@aqua-letifer said in Threw away the dream..:
@kluurs said in Threw away the dream..:
All the other kids were doing it... Again, stupid - but they felt they were acting upon the directive of those who told them the country was being stolen from them - and Joseph
StalinBiden was not the true President. While guilty of poor judgment, they felt they were acting in the best interests of the nation as defined by the President.LD had a good point awhile back: how many of these folks do you think actually thought they'd get access to the Capitol? I mean, watch the videos of them after they got inside. There was clearly no plan whatsoever.
I really hate what happened, but assuming we take that line of thinking kluurs, would it be better for the country overall if they went easy on the sentencing? Or has all this shit from the past year gone quite far enough and now's the time to get serious about punishing mobs?
Nah, I'm still holding out for crucifixion.
At Arlington.
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@jon-nyc said in Threw away the dream..:
You have to think about the moral hazard problem.
Oh, and they beat a federal officer to death with a fire extinguisher.
What do you think they would have done had they captured Pelosi or Pence?
Well that's another thing, are we going to say they're all the same "they" or prosecute them individually? I'm sure we have the surveillance footage to single people out, right?
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@jon-nyc said in Threw away the dream..:
Obviously we try them as individuals.
That would make the death of the police officer completely irrelevant for the guys who just invaded the offices.
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@jon-nyc said in Threw away the dream..:
You have to think about the moral hazard problem.
Oh, and they beat a federal officer to death with a fire extinguisher.
What do you think they would have done had they captured Pelosi or Pence?
They had Rand Paul and his wife for a while, but then they let him go.
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@jon-nyc said in Threw away the dream..:
You have to think about the moral hazard problem.
Oh, and they beat a federal officer to death with a fire extinguisher.
What do you think they would have done had they captured Pelosi or Pence?
I imagine the murderer thought they were in a physical fight. I don't imagine Pelosi or Pence presenting themselves as being in a physical fight.
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@renauda said in Threw away the dream..:
How sportingly white of the rampaging mob to extend the Pauls' that level of common decency. I am sure they recognized them as fellow libertarians.
It was in all the papers
If you are interested in the races involved you can watch the video (the whites misbehaved, as expected)
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@copper said in Threw away the dream..:
If you are interested in the races involved you can watch the video (the whites misbehaved, as expected)
Actually I am more intrigued by the commonalities and similar degrees of blind rage between a patriotic libertarian mob as in the video and an anarchist anti-fa mob in other videos posted here in the recent past. To be honest, I believe both are comprised of similar social cast offs.
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@renauda said in Threw away the dream..:
How sportingly white of the rampaging mob to extend the Pauls' that level of common decency. I am sure they recognized them as fellow libertarians.
Maybe they just got sick of having to listen to him.