The woman who was shot - graphic video
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@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
I’m also surprised that there were no crowd suppression measures taken.
Yeah, me too. It seems to me that the initial response was insufficient to cope with the threat posed, for whatever reason.
@doctor-phibes said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
It seems to me that the initial response was insufficient to cope with the threat posed, for whatever reason.
I nominate this as the least controversial post in the history of TNCR.
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I’ve already been clear on this point. These people need to go to jail. Domestic Terrorism charges are completely appropriate. There’s also the whole “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes” aspect of this. I’m surprised more people weren’t shot.
I’m also surprised that there were no crowd suppression measures taken. That’s all I am saying.
@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
I’m also surprised that there were no crowd suppression measures taken. That’s all I am saying.
Tons of people are looking into this, starting yesterday. I don't buy the completely predictable racism narrative but I'd sure like to know what went wrong.
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I’ve already been clear on this point. These people need to go to jail. Domestic Terrorism charges are completely appropriate. There’s also the whole “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes” aspect of this. I’m surprised more people weren’t shot.
I’m also surprised that there were no crowd suppression measures taken. That’s all I am saying.
@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
I’ve already been clear on this point. These people need to go to jail. Domestic Terrorism charges are completely appropriate. There’s also the whole “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes” aspect of this. I’m surprised more people weren’t shot.
I’m also surprised that there were no crowd suppression measures taken. That’s all I am saying.
Which is also a valid point.
My question is did someone want this to happen?
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@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
I’ve already been clear on this point. These people need to go to jail. Domestic Terrorism charges are completely appropriate. There’s also the whole “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes” aspect of this. I’m surprised more people weren’t shot.
I’m also surprised that there were no crowd suppression measures taken. That’s all I am saying.
Which is also a valid point.
My question is did someone want this to happen?
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"Members and staff were at risk"
"That mob that was trying to get through that door left"
"His actions saved lives"
From a GOP Congressman who witnessed it and had spoken to the cop that took the shot. Watch the whole thing.
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@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
And Antifa was bitching about rubber bullets and tear gas...
Surely one must take into consideration whether the mob is attacking the Capital Building fully staffed or an empty Old Navy.
@jon-nyc said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
@lufins-dad said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
And Antifa was bitching about rubber bullets and tear gas...
Surely one must take into consideration whether the mob is attacking the Capital Building fully staffed or an empty Old Navy.
Capitol.
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John Sullivan, recorded a video of the aftermath, showing police with guns drawn and Babbitt lying in a pool of blood in a stairway inside the Capitol.
Sullivan is the founder of the left-wing activist group Insurgence USA. He said he was not at the Capitol as part of the protest but did not specify what exactly brought him there.
Describing the moments leading up to the shooting, Sullivan said protesters were trying to get into the main entrance of the chamber when they came upon two guards who refused to move.
The group then went down another hallway and used flag poles and other items to break windows to get into the chamber before a group of police emerged.
'All we see is these guns coming out of the doorway, just guns, and all you can see is their hands. You could not see faces,' he said.
'Right when I saw that I was yelling to people: 'Guys, there is guns, you don't want to go through there. They're going to shoot.''
Babbitt ignored Sullivan's plea and went ahead anyway, he said.
The obvious question is, what was Sullivan doing there to begin with?
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John Sullivan, recorded a video of the aftermath, showing police with guns drawn and Babbitt lying in a pool of blood in a stairway inside the Capitol.
Sullivan is the founder of the left-wing activist group Insurgence USA. He said he was not at the Capitol as part of the protest but did not specify what exactly brought him there.
Describing the moments leading up to the shooting, Sullivan said protesters were trying to get into the main entrance of the chamber when they came upon two guards who refused to move.
The group then went down another hallway and used flag poles and other items to break windows to get into the chamber before a group of police emerged.
'All we see is these guns coming out of the doorway, just guns, and all you can see is their hands. You could not see faces,' he said.
'Right when I saw that I was yelling to people: 'Guys, there is guns, you don't want to go through there. They're going to shoot.''
Babbitt ignored Sullivan's plea and went ahead anyway, he said.
The obvious question is, what was Sullivan doing there to begin with?
@george-k said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
The obvious question is, what was Sullivan doing there to begin with?
Attempting to save lives, apparently.
'Right when I saw that I was yelling to people: 'Guys, there is guns, you don't want to go through there. They're going to shoot.''
Babbitt ignored Sullivan's plea and went ahead anyway, he said.
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@taiwan_girl said in The woman who was shot - graphic video:
The same reason President Trump supporters would show up at BLM protests, etc.
To cause problems.
Care to explain that?
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@jolly for example, let us say that there is a meeting of 100 very very devout President Trump supporters.
And you show up with a President elect Biden Tshirt and hat.
What do you think the response would be? What reason would you have to go there? Probably because you are trying to “bait” the other side
There is no good reason to be there other than to try and cause an issue.
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From what I can tell, the officer was part of the last line of defense (a barricaded door) between the mob and the chambers where legislators still were...maybe even Pence, although I'd imagine he was gone by then. Not surprised at all he shot when the first person tried to break their way through. Sad thing she died, but the shooting prevented the invasion at least from that hallway.
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