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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    @jolly said in Lump sum stimulus:

    If they cut the pork out, you could hand everybody $10,000 or more.

    Giving people who are gainfully employed $10,000 is a complete waste of money. They need to channel the money to people who actually need it.

    Mik's idea to support the community is a good one, but I suspect most people who didn't need the money blew the cash on stuff they didn't need.

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    Mik
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    @doctor-phibes said in Lump sum stimulus:

    @jolly said in Lump sum stimulus:

    If they cut the pork out, you could hand everybody $10,000 or more.

    Giving people who are gainfully employed $10,000 is a complete waste of money. They need to channel the money to people who actually need it.

    Mik's idea to support the community is a good one, but I suspect most people who didn't need the money blew the cash on stuff they didn't need.

    And that is the issue. We got it and did not need it by any meaningful measure. We both felt obliged to use it as it was intended. If we get more we will do the same. I hope others do as well.

    I also think they need to up the charitable tax deduction for 2020 to more like $10K. $600 is a drop in the bucket.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      @doctor-phibes said in Lump sum stimulus:

      @jolly said in Lump sum stimulus:

      If they cut the pork out, you could hand everybody $10,000 or more.

      Giving people who are gainfully employed $10,000 is a complete waste of money. They need to channel the money to people who actually need it.

      Mik's idea to support the community is a good one, but I suspect most people who didn't need the money blew the cash on stuff they didn't need.

      I was going to put mine into Luke’s college fund, but Uncle Joe said not to worry, he’s on it. Then I was going to just put it back into US bonds but I realized that’s a horrible investment.

      So, whatever they send to us will be used to buy Dominion Voting Machines...

      The Brad

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      • MikM Mik

        @axtremus said in Lump sum stimulus:

        @mik said in Lump sum stimulus:

        We have been using ours to help small businesses we want to see survive. I haven't had a pro haircut for almost a year, but I’m still paying my barber as if am. MFR did the same.

        What money transfer method do you use for that? You tell the barber to charge your credit card over the phone? You to ACH banking transfer? You use some 3rd party transfer service like PayPal or Venmo or Apple Cash? You mail a check? You mail a prepaid debit card (that you then “top off” every time you figure another haircut is “due”)? You send a gift basket in lieu of cash? You drive by and drop off an envelope with cash?

        What?

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        @mik said in Lump sum stimulus:

        @axtremus said in Lump sum stimulus:

        @mik said in Lump sum stimulus:

        We have been using ours to help small businesses we want to see survive. I haven't had a pro haircut for almost a year, but I’m still paying my barber as if am. MFR did the same.

        What money transfer method do you use for that? You tell the barber to charge your credit card over the phone? You to ACH banking transfer? You use some 3rd party transfer service like PayPal or Venmo or Apple Cash? You mail a check? You mail a prepaid debit card (that you then “top off” every time you figure another haircut is “due”)? You send a gift basket in lieu of cash? You drive by and drop off an envelope with cash?

        What?

        What money transfer method do you use to pay your barber when you haven’t been getting any pro haircut?

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        • MikM Mik

          We have been using ours to help small businesses we want to see survive. I haven't had a pro haircut for almost a year, but I’m still paying my barber as if am. MFR did the same. We also made some sizeable gifts to a couple local theater companies.

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          jon-nyc
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          @mik said in Lump sum stimulus:

          I haven't had a pro haircut for almost a year, but I’m still paying my barber as if am.

          Interesting. I still pay my cleaning lady 140/wk. and she hasn’t come since early March. I even gave her her usual Xmas bonus of an extra 140.

          But it never occurred to me to pay my barber.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @mik said in Lump sum stimulus:

            I haven't had a pro haircut for almost a year, but I’m still paying my barber as if am.

            Interesting. I still pay my cleaning lady 140/wk. and she hasn’t come since early March. I even gave her her usual Xmas bonus of an extra 140.

            But it never occurred to me to pay my barber.

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            @jon-nyc said in Lump sum stimulus:

            I still pay my cleaning lady 140/wk. and she hasn’t come since early March. I even gave her her usual Xmas bonus of an extra 140.

            Same question as I asked @Mik, what payment method do you use to pay for this sort of "in person" service when you do not actually get to meet this service provide in-person anymore?

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              @jon-nyc said in Lump sum stimulus:

              I still pay my cleaning lady 140/wk. and she hasn’t come since early March. I even gave her her usual Xmas bonus of an extra 140.

              Same question as I asked @Mik, what payment method do you use to pay for this sort of "in person" service when you do not actually get to meet this service provide in-person anymore?

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              @axtremus said in Lump sum stimulus:

              @jon-nyc said in Lump sum stimulus:

              I still pay my cleaning lady 140/wk. and she hasn’t come since early March. I even gave her her usual Xmas bonus of an extra 140.

              Same question as I asked @Mik, what payment method do you use to pay for this sort of "in person" service when you do not actually get to meet this service provide in-person anymore?

              We use Venmo, Ax.

              Please love yourself.

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                @jon-nyc said in Lump sum stimulus:

                I still pay my cleaning lady 140/wk. and she hasn’t come since early March. I even gave her her usual Xmas bonus of an extra 140.

                Same question as I asked @Mik, what payment method do you use to pay for this sort of "in person" service when you do not actually get to meet this service provide in-person anymore?

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                jon-nyc
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                @axtremus said in Lump sum stimulus:

                @jon-nyc said in Lump sum stimulus:

                I still pay my cleaning lady 140/wk. and she hasn’t come since early March. I even gave her her usual Xmas bonus of an extra 140.

                Same question as I asked @Mik, what payment method do you use to pay for this sort of "in person" service when you do not actually get to meet this service provide in-person anymore?

                I send her checks every month. I asked about Venmo but she didn’t have it.

                I use Venmo weekly for my boy’s Spanish lesson. We just went remote with those.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  Axtremus
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                  On the other side of the question I asked @Mik and @jon-nyc, I also wonder how that income get classified by the recipients.

                  Getting paid for no service rendered pretty much means these are not "earned income." These are also not investment income. Not "royalty". Not winnings from gambling. Maybe they count as "gifts," so the recipients are not subjected to any tax on them. Anyone think the IRS will have a problem with the recipients classifying these as "gifts" and not pay tax on any of it?

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                  • MikM Away
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                    Mik
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                    #23

                    Not if they don't know about it. I don't think the IRS is going to be spending a lot of time on these things.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      On the other side of the question I asked @Mik and @jon-nyc, I also wonder how that income get classified by the recipients.

                      Getting paid for no service rendered pretty much means these are not "earned income." These are also not investment income. Not "royalty". Not winnings from gambling. Maybe they count as "gifts," so the recipients are not subjected to any tax on them. Anyone think the IRS will have a problem with the recipients classifying these as "gifts" and not pay tax on any of it?

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                      jon-nyc
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                      @axtremus

                      For sure this woman didn’t declare it before Covid or now.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        jon-nyc
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                        Trump signed the relief bill after all.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                          jon-nyc
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                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @axtremus said in Lump sum stimulus:

                            @jon-nyc said in Lump sum stimulus:

                            I still pay my cleaning lady 140/wk. and she hasn’t come since early March. I even gave her her usual Xmas bonus of an extra 140.

                            Same question as I asked @Mik, what payment method do you use to pay for this sort of "in person" service when you do not actually get to meet this service provide in-person anymore?

                            We use Venmo, Ax.

                            AxtremusA Away
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                            Axtremus
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                            @aqua-letifer said in Lump sum stimulus:

                            We use Venmo, Ax.

                            Thanks, man. I've seen you and @89th and @jon-nyc all recently mentioning that you use Venmo. So I'll go read up on Venmo a bit and brush up on what mobile app based payment systems are like these days.

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                              jon-nyc
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                              Seen on twitter:

                              Now Trump can focus like a laser on his top priority, inciting a white nationalist riot in Washington on January 6.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                Seen on twitter:

                                Now Trump can focus like a laser on his top priority, inciting a white nationalist riot in Washington on January 6.

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                                @jon-nyc said in Lump sum stimulus:

                                Seen on twitter:

                                Now Trump can focus like a laser on his top priority, inciting a white nationalist riot in Washington on January 6.

                                What about all the black and Latino folks who support him...... are they "white nationalists" too?

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                                • jon-nycJ Online
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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  For sure the white nationalist thing is overwrought. I should probably have edited it. But yeah, that’s now his focus. 1/6 and pardoning his swamp creature family and friends.

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    For sure the white nationalist thing is overwrought. I should probably have edited it. But yeah, that’s now his focus. 1/6 and pardoning his swamp creature family and friends.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Lump sum stimulus:

                                    For sure the white nationalist thing is overwrought. I should probably have edited it. But yeah, that’s now his focus. 1/6 and pardoning his swamp creature family and friends.

                                    You seem to be confused as to just who the swamp creatures actually are.

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                                      George K
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                                      I'm so old that I remember when the Speaker of the House said $1000 was "crumbs."

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • LarryL Larry

                                        @jon-nyc said in Lump sum stimulus:

                                        For sure the white nationalist thing is overwrought. I should probably have edited it. But yeah, that’s now his focus. 1/6 and pardoning his swamp creature family and friends.

                                        You seem to be confused as to just who the swamp creatures actually are.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        @larry

                                        In what possible world is Paul Manafort not a swamp creature?

                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          @larry

                                          In what possible world is Paul Manafort not a swamp creature?

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                                          @jon-nyc said in Lump sum stimulus:

                                          @larry

                                          In what possible world is Paul Manafort not a swamp creature?

                                          I am 100% down for reopening all aspects of the Russia investigation. Would like to know what Manafort knew in trade for a much more complete disclosure of all FBI and other activities. Let’s do it and also figure out everyone’s dealings in Ukraine especially!

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