What's in the omnibus "relief bill?"

[Axtremus]

@axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

Will Trump veto, will he fold without veto? Will the GOP join the override and let us see Trump lose again, or let the year end with a government shutdown and no economic stimulus?

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/27/congress-stimulus-deal-450380

Trump folded and signed the bill, in time to avert a “government shutdown,” but not in time to prevent a lapse in extended unemployment benefit.

[George K]

"What is the Impoundment Control Act? Enacted in 1974 in response to President Nixon, Congress laid out very specific causes and processes for any future president to rescind, reserve, or defer authorized budgetary spending. In this case, President Trump is invoking 2 U.S.C §683 (which can be read here) in order to essentially line-item veto specific parts of the spending bill to increase the direct payments from $600 to $2000 per adult. President Trump, in his statement above, refers to this as “redlining” and will “submit a formal rescission request to Congress” in an attempt to pass the bill, and still get what he wants from it."

How is this different from a "line-item" veto, which has been ruled as unconstitutional?

[Loki]

I just want to know if today’s 1% bounce goes to the Trump or Biden stock market increase ledger. LOL.

Also if you scroll back 4 or 5 days ago I said Trump knew he lost this and would sign. Just more fake drama and fake popcorn eating and fake making Trump lose again, but me pointing out the obvious is probably getting tiresome by now.

[xenon]

Why is he line item vetoing things from his own budget proposal?

[Axtremus]

@xenon said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

Why is he line item vetoing things from his own budget proposal?

Because he does not know what “he” proposed. Most likely “his people” proposed things he doesn’t know and doesn’t understand, now he line-items the same items his administration proposed, hoping his supporters are too low-information to notice that his administration has again slapped its own face.

[jon-nyc]

@xenon said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

Why is he line item vetoing things from his own budget proposal?

He’s on a 45 day losing streak, maybe he figures if he gets in a fight with himself he can’t lose.

[taiwan_girl]

@loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

I just want to know if today’s 1% bounce goes to the Trump or Biden stock market increase ledger. LOL.

Accord to @Horace , this goes to President elect Biden.

(Just teasing you Horace)

[Horace]

@taiwan_girl said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

@loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

I just want to know if today’s 1% bounce goes to the Trump or Biden stock market increase ledger. LOL.

Accord to @Horace , this goes to President elect Biden.

(Just teasing you Horace)

I'm at an all time high in terms of net worth. If people want to hold down white males, they're doing it wrong.

[Rainman]

@axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

@xenon said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

Why is he line item vetoing things from his own budget proposal?

Because he does not know what “he” proposed. Most likely “his people” proposed things he doesn’t know and doesn’t understand, now he line-items the same items his administration proposed, hoping his supporters are too low-information to notice that his administration has again slapped its own face.

Hey Ax! Did you get more mindreading batteries for Christmas?
That's a powerful comment you got there, somewhere between "unbelievable" and "Jesus."

[Loki]

@jon-nyc said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

@xenon said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

Why is he line item vetoing things from his own budget proposal?

He’s on a 45 day losing streak, maybe he figures if he gets in a fight with himself he can’t lose.

The only real loss would be Georgia, the rest were easily predicted and baked into every objective analysis. He’s there on the 4th for a rally. I think you will have earned crowing rights if the Senate goes Democrat.

[Axtremus]

@rainman said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

That's a powerful comment you got there, somewhere between "unbelievable" and "Jesus."

Do you have a better explanation for why Trump line-item vetoed his admin’s own proposals?

[George K]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/07/business/dealbook/bailout-pensions-stimulus.html

“Just to show you how bad this bill is, there’s more money in this to bail out union pension funds than all the money combined for vaccine distribution and testing,” Senator Bill Hagerty, a Tennessee Republican, said last week.

[Doctor Phibes]

Assholes.

This is everything that's wrong with the US political system.

[Copper]

And now we have nobody draining the swamp.

[George K]

@doctor-phibes said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

Assholes.

Somewhere I read that each person who gets $1400 ends up owing $5700 (by adding to the national debt).

[LuFins Dad]

@george-k said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

@doctor-phibes said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

Assholes.

Somewhere I read that each person who gets $1400 ends up owing $5700 (by adding to the national debt).

That’s wrong, of course.

A LOT of the people getting $1400 per check will never pay a penny in income tax and will continue to receive money back in earned income.

[LuFins Dad]

UBI?

[Doctor Phibes]

@george-k said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

@doctor-phibes said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

Assholes.

Somewhere I read that each person who gets $1400 ends up owing $5700 (by adding to the national debt).

Hypothetically, a non-US citizen who left the country when he or she retired wouldn't owe a brass farthing.