Meanwhile in Illinois...
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Ford, GM, Jeep make more than enough cars to supply me.
Yes, I know Honda, Acura and Toyota have a high percentage of US manufacturing in them. But as a boomer it just doesn't sit right with me.
wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 23:00 last edited by jon-nyc@Copper said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:
But as a boomer it just doesn't sit right with me.
Ok, boomer.
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wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 23:09 last edited by
Yup, it will die out.
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wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 01:22 last edited by
With cars, buying an American brand is not a cost-quality trade off. For the same body type and size class, the typical Honda/Toyota that is more reliable than the typical GM/Ford is also more expensive. In any case, we don‘t import any car from China, so this is not a China problem.
For consumer electronics, there is not much of a choice ... computers, smartphones, tablets, Wi-Fi routers, USB hubs, etc. are all assembled in China. It’s still possible to get SSD manufactured in Korea, but I do not know for how long that will remain the case.
I have been avoiding food that‘s exported from mainland China for many years. Luckily there’s plenty of food being produced, processed, and packaged outside of China that I don’t think I sacrifice much in variety. That‘s the one category of things where I consciously pay more for “higher quality” (supposedly higher safety standards, I suppose).
Oh, and then there‘s critical national infrastructure. About taking the national wireless communications infrastructure to ”5G,“ yes, I think the mainland Chinese will offer lower cost for the equipment, but as a consumer, I am willing to pay more (indirectly) for non-Chinese equipment. Same goes for big network routers/switches used by the nation‘s telecommunications serivce providers. I suppose you can say that I am willing to pay more for ”higher quality“ in this case, it’s just that the ”quality“ in this case is wrapped in ”security“ — the security for my data and ”national security“ for my country. I am willing to pay more to avoid service providers that deploy mainland Chinese equipment in their networks.
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wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 02:53 last edited by
Chinese built cars are already in the U.S.
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wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 03:00 last edited by Axtremus
@Jolly said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:
Chinese built cars are already in the U.S.
What makes/models?
How many "Chinese built cars" in the U.S.?
(Would appreciate it if you have the statistics handy, else I can try to look it up using the makes/models information requested above.) -
I would never buy a foreign car, no way.
Price matters, the feds can fix that with tariffs.
wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 05:21 last edited by@Copper said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:
I would never buy a foreign car, no way.
Price matters, the feds can fix that with tariffs.
I will never buy an American car again. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me four times? You’re done.
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wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 10:52 last edited by
I’m somewhat surprised we haven’t seen Chery here. It’s in Latin America.
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@Jolly said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:
Chinese built cars are already in the U.S.
What makes/models?
How many "Chinese built cars" in the U.S.?
(Would appreciate it if you have the statistics handy, else I can try to look it up using the makes/models information requested above.)wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 12:27 last edited by@Axtremus said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:
Chinese built cars are already in the U.S.
What makes/models?
How many "Chinese built cars" in the U.S.?
(Would appreciate it if you have the statistics handy, else I can try to look it up using the makes/models information requested above.) -
My prediction: There will be a bill when this is over to repatriate critical medical manufacturing.
Then it’ll get watered down to useless in the Senate and we’ll be in more or less the same place.
wrote on 23 Apr 2020, 12:07 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:
My prediction: There will be a bill when this is over to repatriate critical medical manufacturing.
Then it’ll get watered down to useless in the Senate and we’ll be in more or less the same place.
JD Vance on the donor problem.
He meanders at first but keep reading.
https://americanmind.org/essays/end-the-globalization-gravy-train/
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wrote on 23 Apr 2020, 12:43 last edited by
Hard to effectively criticize something, when it hasn't happened.
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wrote on 23 Apr 2020, 12:46 last edited by jon-nyc
Telling the electorate what they want to hear then doing the opposite because that’s what the donors want has never happened before?
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Telling the electorate what they want to hear then doing the opposite because that’s what the donors want has never happened before?
wrote on 23 Apr 2020, 12:58 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:
Telling the electorate what they want to hear then doing the opposite because that’s what the donors want has never happened before?
As far as this issue, things may have changed a mite.