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Meanwhile in Illinois...

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  • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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    Aqua Letifer
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    #15

    Same for most food items.

    Please love yourself.

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    • CopperC Offline
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      Copper
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      #16

      I would never buy a foreign car, no way.

      Price matters, the feds can fix that with tariffs.

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      • CopperC Copper

        I would never buy a foreign car, no way.

        Price matters, the feds can fix that with tariffs.

        George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #17

        @Copper said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:

        I would never buy a foreign car, no way.

        Do Hondas count as "foreign?"

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • CopperC Offline
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          Ford, GM, Jeep make more than enough cars to supply me.

          Yes, I know Honda, Acura and Toyota have a high percentage of US manufacturing in them. But as a boomer it just doesn't sit right with me.

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          • CopperC Copper

            Ford, GM, Jeep make more than enough cars to supply me.

            Yes, I know Honda, Acura and Toyota have a high percentage of US manufacturing in them. But as a boomer it just doesn't sit right with me.

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            jon-nyc
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            #19

            @Copper said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:

            But as a boomer it just doesn't sit right with me.

            Ok, boomer.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • CopperC Offline
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              Copper
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              #20

              Yup, it will die out.

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                #21

                With cars, buying an American brand is not a cost-quality trade off. For the same body type and size class, the typical Honda/Toyota that is more reliable than the typical GM/Ford is also more expensive. In any case, we don‘t import any car from China, so this is not a China problem.

                For consumer electronics, there is not much of a choice ... computers, smartphones, tablets, Wi-Fi routers, USB hubs, etc. are all assembled in China. It’s still possible to get SSD manufactured in Korea, but I do not know for how long that will remain the case.

                I have been avoiding food that‘s exported from mainland China for many years. Luckily there’s plenty of food being produced, processed, and packaged outside of China that I don’t think I sacrifice much in variety. That‘s the one category of things where I consciously pay more for “higher quality” (supposedly higher safety standards, I suppose).

                Oh, and then there‘s critical national infrastructure. About taking the national wireless communications infrastructure to ”5G,“ yes, I think the mainland Chinese will offer lower cost for the equipment, but as a consumer, I am willing to pay more (indirectly) for non-Chinese equipment. Same goes for big network routers/switches used by the nation‘s telecommunications serivce providers. I suppose you can say that I am willing to pay more for ”higher quality“ in this case, it’s just that the ”quality“ in this case is wrapped in ”security“ — the security for my data and ”national security“ for my country. I am willing to pay more to avoid service providers that deploy mainland Chinese equipment in their networks.

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                • CopperC Copper

                  Yup, it will die out.

                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                  @Copper said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:

                  Yup, it will die out.

                  What, the boomer generation?

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    #23

                    Chinese built cars are already in the U.S.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      Chinese built cars are already in the U.S.

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                      @Jolly said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:

                      Chinese built cars are already in the U.S.

                      What makes/models?
                      How many "Chinese built cars" in the U.S.?
                      (Would appreciate it if you have the statistics handy, else I can try to look it up using the makes/models information requested above.)

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                      • CopperC Copper

                        I would never buy a foreign car, no way.

                        Price matters, the feds can fix that with tariffs.

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                        @Copper said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:

                        I would never buy a foreign car, no way.

                        Price matters, the feds can fix that with tariffs.

                        I will never buy an American car again. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me four times? You’re done.

                        The Brad

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                          jon-nyc
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                          #26

                          I’m somewhat surprised we haven’t seen Chery here. It’s in Latin America.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • AxtremusA Axtremus

                            @Jolly said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:

                            Chinese built cars are already in the U.S.

                            What makes/models?
                            How many "Chinese built cars" in the U.S.?
                            (Would appreciate it if you have the statistics handy, else I can try to look it up using the makes/models information requested above.)

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                            Jolly
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                            #27

                            @Axtremus said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:

                            @Jolly said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:

                            Chinese built cars are already in the U.S.

                            What makes/models?
                            How many "Chinese built cars" in the U.S.?
                            (Would appreciate it if you have the statistics handy, else I can try to look it up using the makes/models information requested above.)

                            https://www.buick.com/suvs/envision

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              My prediction: There will be a bill when this is over to repatriate critical medical manufacturing.

                              Then it’ll get watered down to useless in the Senate and we’ll be in more or less the same place.

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                              @jon-nyc said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:

                              My prediction: There will be a bill when this is over to repatriate critical medical manufacturing.

                              Then it’ll get watered down to useless in the Senate and we’ll be in more or less the same place.

                              JD Vance on the donor problem.

                              He meanders at first but keep reading.

                              https://americanmind.org/essays/end-the-globalization-gravy-train/

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                jon-nyc
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                                #29

                                Scott McConnell (co-founder of the American Conservative magazine), has a much pithier version.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • JollyJ Offline
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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #30

                                  Hard to effectively criticize something, when it hasn't happened.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #31

                                    Telling the electorate what they want to hear then doing the opposite because that’s what the donors want has never happened before?

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Telling the electorate what they want to hear then doing the opposite because that’s what the donors want has never happened before?

                                      JollyJ Offline
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                                      Jolly
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                                      #32

                                      @jon-nyc said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:

                                      Telling the electorate what they want to hear then doing the opposite because that’s what the donors want has never happened before?

                                      As far as this issue, things may have changed a mite.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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