Meanwhile in Illinois...
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I think that we on this forum board are all guilty. We talk about wanting to buy local, but my guess is that most of us (me included) will mainly shop on price. If we go into the store and there are too (somewhat) identical items, most people will buy the cheaper. Yes, yes, yes, I understand that "you get what you pay for", but a lot/most people $$$ savings > possible quality increase.
Companies follow the money. Seventy years ago, it was "Made in Japan", then it was "Made in Taiwan", then it was/is "Made in China". But already, companies are moving to other countries in SE Asia and East Asia as Jolly says above.
But I agree with JonNYC, I think it will be very very very difficult to force a consumer product to be made in the US. Military, etc., is one thing, but consumer is something different in my opinion.
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Not me. I usually buy quality, not price. There is cost and there is value, and both must be considered. all my meat is local, and come spring and summer my produce will be too. Most of my baked goods are local. I pay a little more but I know what I'm getting and I know it is a better product.
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Same for most food items.
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I would never buy a foreign car, no way.
Price matters, the feds can fix that with tariffs.
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I would never buy a foreign car, no way.
Price matters, the feds can fix that with tariffs.
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Ford, GM, Jeep make more than enough cars to supply me.
Yes, I know Honda, Acura and Toyota have a high percentage of US manufacturing in them. But as a boomer it just doesn't sit right with me.
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With cars, buying an American brand is not a cost-quality trade off. For the same body type and size class, the typical Honda/Toyota that is more reliable than the typical GM/Ford is also more expensive. In any case, we don‘t import any car from China, so this is not a China problem.
For consumer electronics, there is not much of a choice ... computers, smartphones, tablets, Wi-Fi routers, USB hubs, etc. are all assembled in China. It’s still possible to get SSD manufactured in Korea, but I do not know for how long that will remain the case.
I have been avoiding food that‘s exported from mainland China for many years. Luckily there’s plenty of food being produced, processed, and packaged outside of China that I don’t think I sacrifice much in variety. That‘s the one category of things where I consciously pay more for “higher quality” (supposedly higher safety standards, I suppose).
Oh, and then there‘s critical national infrastructure. About taking the national wireless communications infrastructure to ”5G,“ yes, I think the mainland Chinese will offer lower cost for the equipment, but as a consumer, I am willing to pay more (indirectly) for non-Chinese equipment. Same goes for big network routers/switches used by the nation‘s telecommunications serivce providers. I suppose you can say that I am willing to pay more for ”higher quality“ in this case, it’s just that the ”quality“ in this case is wrapped in ”security“ — the security for my data and ”national security“ for my country. I am willing to pay more to avoid service providers that deploy mainland Chinese equipment in their networks.
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Chinese built cars are already in the U.S.
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@Jolly said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:
Chinese built cars are already in the U.S.
What makes/models?
How many "Chinese built cars" in the U.S.?
(Would appreciate it if you have the statistics handy, else I can try to look it up using the makes/models information requested above.) -
I would never buy a foreign car, no way.
Price matters, the feds can fix that with tariffs.
@Copper said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:
I would never buy a foreign car, no way.
Price matters, the feds can fix that with tariffs.
I will never buy an American car again. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me four times? You’re done.
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@Jolly said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:
Chinese built cars are already in the U.S.
What makes/models?
How many "Chinese built cars" in the U.S.?
(Would appreciate it if you have the statistics handy, else I can try to look it up using the makes/models information requested above.)@Axtremus said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:
@Jolly said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:
Chinese built cars are already in the U.S.
What makes/models?
How many "Chinese built cars" in the U.S.?
(Would appreciate it if you have the statistics handy, else I can try to look it up using the makes/models information requested above.) -
My prediction: There will be a bill when this is over to repatriate critical medical manufacturing.
Then it’ll get watered down to useless in the Senate and we’ll be in more or less the same place.
@jon-nyc said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:
My prediction: There will be a bill when this is over to repatriate critical medical manufacturing.
Then it’ll get watered down to useless in the Senate and we’ll be in more or less the same place.
JD Vance on the donor problem.
He meanders at first but keep reading.
https://americanmind.org/essays/end-the-globalization-gravy-train/
