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    xenon
    wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:36 last edited by
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    Test drove both today. Went with the Toyota 🙂

    Was heavily leaning Odyssey before the drives.

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      21 Dec 2020, 00:36

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      Test drove both today. Went with the Toyota 🙂

      Was heavily leaning Odyssey before the drives.

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      George K
      wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:41 last edited by
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      @xenon said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

      Test drove both today. Went with the Toyota
      Was heavily leaning Odyssey before the drives.

      What changed your mind?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Mik
        wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:41 last edited by
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        You could not go wrong with those candidates.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • M Mik
          21 Dec 2020, 00:41

          You could not go wrong with those candidates.

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          xenon
          wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:46 last edited by xenon
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          @george-k said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

          @xenon said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

          Test drove both today. Went with the Toyota
          Was heavily leaning Odyssey before the drives.

          What changed your mind?

          It drove like a car (in a good way). I thought the Honda would be a lot better in term of pickup, but the hybrid system has a nice response from stop (the Odyssey can dig much deeper though). And the inner and outer fit/finish just felt much much more modern.

          The 50% better fuel mileage was a bonus. Ended up paying $5k more than a similarly specced Odyssey though.

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:48 last edited by
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            Taking ownership of ones first mini-van is part of the hell that announces the fact that you're approaching middle age.

            Whilst, like erectile disfunction, it may be unavoidable, I see no reason to celebrate it, or even to tell anybody else about it.

            Dressing the discussion up as being about 'buying a hybrid' is just a distraction from the dreadful truth.

            I apologize for my bluntness, but somebody needed to say it.

            (Doctor Phibes - recovering former Sienna owner)

            I was only joking

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              21 Dec 2020, 00:48

              Taking ownership of ones first mini-van is part of the hell that announces the fact that you're approaching middle age.

              Whilst, like erectile disfunction, it may be unavoidable, I see no reason to celebrate it, or even to tell anybody else about it.

              Dressing the discussion up as being about 'buying a hybrid' is just a distraction from the dreadful truth.

              I apologize for my bluntness, but somebody needed to say it.

              (Doctor Phibes - recovering former Sienna owner)

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              George K
              wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:52 last edited by
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              @doctor-phibes said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

              recovering

              As if...

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Mik
                wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:56 last edited by
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                A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • M Mik
                  21 Dec 2020, 00:56

                  A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.

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                  brenda
                  wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:56 last edited by
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                  @mik said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                  A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.

                  Exactly. She will have a far more detailed definition to provide.

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                  • D Doctor Phibes
                    21 Dec 2020, 00:48

                    Taking ownership of ones first mini-van is part of the hell that announces the fact that you're approaching middle age.

                    Whilst, like erectile disfunction, it may be unavoidable, I see no reason to celebrate it, or even to tell anybody else about it.

                    Dressing the discussion up as being about 'buying a hybrid' is just a distraction from the dreadful truth.

                    I apologize for my bluntness, but somebody needed to say it.

                    (Doctor Phibes - recovering former Sienna owner)

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                    xenon
                    wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:58 last edited by
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                    @doctor-phibes hahahahah

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                      21 Dec 2020, 00:56

                      @mik said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                      A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.

                      Exactly. She will have a far more detailed definition to provide.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:59 last edited by
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                      @brenda said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                      @mik said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                      A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.

                      Exactly. She will have a far more detailed definition to provide.

                      Isn’t that the truth. 😆

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        21 Dec 2020, 00:36

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                        Test drove both today. Went with the Toyota 🙂

                        Was heavily leaning Odyssey before the drives.

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 03:14 last edited by
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                        @xenon 👍

                        The Brad

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                        • M Mik
                          21 Dec 2020, 00:56

                          A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 03:36 last edited by
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                          @mik said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                          A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.

                          Right after she tells him to go buy "us" a loser-cruiser.

                          I was only joking

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 03:40 last edited by jon-nyc
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                            I have avoided and will continue to avoid the minivan.

                            I rode in a Sienna almost every weekend for 3 years and it seemed like a fine car. My buddy had one and we had boys the same age and would take them out Saturdays

                            They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                              Klaus
                              wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 10:41 last edited by Klaus
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                              Minivans rock. I don't understand the problem many people have with them, who'll then go on to buy an SUV, which is basically the same thing except that it sits 10 inches highe, costs $10K more, and has worse mileage (says the owner of a SUV).

                              Obviously there are nicer looking cars, but if one has a large family and/or a lot of stuff to haul, this is usually not on the top spot of the priority list.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 14:05 last edited by
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                                Thanks a lot, Xenon. Now I'm getting Toyota Sienna ads...

                                They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                  21 Dec 2020, 10:41

                                  Minivans rock. I don't understand the problem many people have with them, who'll then go on to buy an SUV, which is basically the same thing except that it sits 10 inches highe, costs $10K more, and has worse mileage (says the owner of a SUV).

                                  Obviously there are nicer looking cars, but if one has a large family and/or a lot of stuff to haul, this is usually not on the top spot of the priority list.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 14:14 last edited by
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                                  @klaus said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                                  I don't understand the problem many people have with them,

                                  My main problem when I owned one was all the shit I took from people about it. I'm finally getting to unload it.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • D Doctor Phibes
                                    21 Dec 2020, 14:14

                                    @klaus said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                                    I don't understand the problem many people have with them,

                                    My main problem when I owned one was all the shit I took from people about it. I'm finally getting to unload it.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 14:23 last edited by
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                                    @doctor-phibes said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                                    @klaus said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                                    I don't understand the problem many people have with them,

                                    My main problem when I owned one was all the shit I took from people about it. I'm finally getting to unload it.

                                    You still have a minivan? You fucking wuss.

                                    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 14:32 last edited by
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                                      Form follows function. I loved my Odyssey.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 14:52 last edited by
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                                        I've owned three minivans. They were all functional for the reasons one buys a minivan - hauling 4 kids around, trips to the Cheddarshack. All were Chrysler products (Two Dodge's and a Chrysler). At the time of our first one, there was only the Dodge Caravan. At the time of the second, we wanted the extra room in back, so it was the Chrysler Town & Country. If I recall, no other van had that room in the back at the time (1992).

                                        Our third was a Dodge Grand Caravan (1997). At the time, it was the only one with AWD, which we needed to climb the hill at the Cheddarshack. I tried it in my Honda Prelude with about an inch of snow on the ground - it was a miserable failure.

                                        All that said, I never "enjoyed" any of them. They did the job, they were comfortable enough, and, being Chrysler products, had their share of issues. I was glad to be rid of them.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • J jon-nyc
                                          21 Dec 2020, 14:23

                                          @doctor-phibes said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                                          @klaus said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                                          I don't understand the problem many people have with them,

                                          My main problem when I owned one was all the shit I took from people about it. I'm finally getting to unload it.

                                          You still have a minivan? You fucking wuss.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 15:27 last edited by
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                                          @jon-nyc said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                                          @doctor-phibes said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                                          @klaus said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                                          I don't understand the problem many people have with them,

                                          My main problem when I owned one was all the shit I took from people about it. I'm finally getting to unload it.

                                          You still have a minivan? You fucking wuss.

                                          No I don't, in fact I don't have a bloody car at all. I'm permitted to drive the wife's car. Mine crapped out in the fall, and there doesn't seem much point in buying another one just so it can sit on the driveway.

                                          I was only joking

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