Historic Russian hack uncovered
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@jon-nyc said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
There goes Loki’s theory that he’s staying quiet due to the seriousness of the occasion.
Damn, it seemed so likely, too.
See my reply. He just told us it’s garden variety yet effective espionage.
wrote on 19 Dec 2020, 17:38 last edited by@loki said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
He just told us it’s garden variety yet effective espionage.
https://nypost.com/2020/12/18/russian-hacked-networks-must-be-burned-down/
It’s going to take months to kick elite hackers widely believed to be Russian out of the U.S. government networks they have been quietly rifling through since as far back as March in Washington’s worst cyberespionage failure on record.
Experts say there simply are not enough skilled threat-hunting teams to identify all the government and private-sector systems that may have been hacked. FireEye, the cybersecurity company that discovered the worst-ever intrusion into U.S. agencies and was among the victims, has already tallied dozens of casualties. It’s racing to identify more.
“We have a serious problem. We don’t know what networks they are in, how deep they are, what access they have, what tools they left,” said Bruce Schneier, a prominent security expert and Harvard fellow.
It’s not clear exactly what the hackers were seeking, but experts say it could include nuclear secrets, blueprints for advanced weaponry and information for dossiers on key government and industry leaders.
Many federal workers — and others in the private sector — will now have to presume that unclassified networks are teeming with spies. Agencies will often have to conduct sensitive government business on Signal, WhatsApp and other encrypted smartphone apps.
“We should buckle up. This will be a long ride,” said Dmitri Alperovitch, co-founder and former chief technical officer of the leading cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike. “Cleanup is just phase one.”
The only way to be sure a network is clean is “to burn it down to the ground and rebuild it,” Schneier said.
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@loki said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
He just told us it’s garden variety yet effective espionage.
https://nypost.com/2020/12/18/russian-hacked-networks-must-be-burned-down/
It’s going to take months to kick elite hackers widely believed to be Russian out of the U.S. government networks they have been quietly rifling through since as far back as March in Washington’s worst cyberespionage failure on record.
Experts say there simply are not enough skilled threat-hunting teams to identify all the government and private-sector systems that may have been hacked. FireEye, the cybersecurity company that discovered the worst-ever intrusion into U.S. agencies and was among the victims, has already tallied dozens of casualties. It’s racing to identify more.
“We have a serious problem. We don’t know what networks they are in, how deep they are, what access they have, what tools they left,” said Bruce Schneier, a prominent security expert and Harvard fellow.
It’s not clear exactly what the hackers were seeking, but experts say it could include nuclear secrets, blueprints for advanced weaponry and information for dossiers on key government and industry leaders.
Many federal workers — and others in the private sector — will now have to presume that unclassified networks are teeming with spies. Agencies will often have to conduct sensitive government business on Signal, WhatsApp and other encrypted smartphone apps.
“We should buckle up. This will be a long ride,” said Dmitri Alperovitch, co-founder and former chief technical officer of the leading cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike. “Cleanup is just phase one.”
The only way to be sure a network is clean is “to burn it down to the ground and rebuild it,” Schneier said.
wrote on 19 Dec 2020, 17:43 last edited by@george-k said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
@loki said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
He just told us it’s garden variety yet effective espionage.
https://nypost.com/2020/12/18/russian-hacked-networks-must-be-burned-down/
It’s going to take months to kick elite hackers widely believed to be Russian out of the U.S. government networks they have been quietly rifling through since as far back as March in Washington’s worst cyberespionage failure on record.
Experts say there simply are not enough skilled threat-hunting teams to identify all the government and private-sector systems that may have been hacked. FireEye, the cybersecurity company that discovered the worst-ever intrusion into U.S. agencies and was among the victims, has already tallied dozens of casualties. It’s racing to identify more.
“We have a serious problem. We don’t know what networks they are in, how deep they are, what access they have, what tools they left,” said Bruce Schneier, a prominent security expert and Harvard fellow.
It’s not clear exactly what the hackers were seeking, but experts say it could include nuclear secrets, blueprints for advanced weaponry and information for dossiers on key government and industry leaders.
Many federal workers — and others in the private sector — will now have to presume that unclassified networks are teeming with spies. Agencies will often have to conduct sensitive government business on Signal, WhatsApp and other encrypted smartphone apps.
“We should buckle up. This will be a long ride,” said Dmitri Alperovitch, co-founder and former chief technical officer of the leading cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike. “Cleanup is just phase one.”
The only way to be sure a network is clean is “to burn it down to the ground and rebuild it,” Schneier said.
Well of course espionage is going to keep pace with the tools available. If you think we haven’t done the same or worse to Russia you are just kidding yourself. Even Obama was listening in on dear Angela.
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@renauda said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
Maybe its just Putin's way of saying "I'll miss you, Donushka".
Started when Trump was the likely winner of the election.
Espionage is a tradition in the world, in fact a feature. On the other hand if it’s an infrastructure attack it’s an act of war. Biden can’t do much about the former and has grave choices if it’s the latter.wrote on 19 Dec 2020, 19:25 last edited by@loki said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
Espionage is a tradition in the world, in fact a feature. On the other hand if it’s an infrastructure attack it’s an act of war. Biden can’t do much about the former and has grave choices if it’s the latter.
Espionage is easier
Spies are shot, everyone agrees
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@renauda said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
Maybe its just Putin's way of saying "I'll miss you, Donushka".
Started when Trump was the likely winner of the election.
Espionage is a tradition in the world, in fact a feature. On the other hand if it’s an infrastructure attack it’s an act of war. Biden can’t do much about the former and has grave choices if it’s the latter.wrote on 19 Dec 2020, 21:48 last edited by Renauda@loki said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
Started when Trump was the likely winner of the election.
Oh well then that's something completely different.
Putin's way of saying," "I want for us to meet again in Helsinki, Donushka". -
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@jon-nyc said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
This was our President’s response, for those who missed it.
Is it an insult to call a moron a moron!
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@jon-nyc said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
This was our President’s response, for those who missed it.
Is it an insult to call a moron a moron!
wrote on 19 Dec 2020, 23:56 last edited by@nobodyssock said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
@jon-nyc said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
This was our President’s response, for those who missed it.
Is it an insult to call a moron a moron!
Ok
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@nobodyssock said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
@jon-nyc said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
This was our President’s response, for those who missed it.
Is it an insult to call a moron a moron!
Ok
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wrote on 20 Dec 2020, 00:20 last edited by jon-nyc
I’ve not heard a lot of calls for unity, except from Trumpists ridiculing the idea. And they misspelled “Magats”
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I’ve not heard a lot of calls for unity, except from Trumpists ridiculing the idea. And they misspelled “Magats”
wrote on 20 Dec 2020, 00:51 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
I’ve not heard a lot of calls for unity,
You missed Joe Biden's victory speech?
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@jon-nyc said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
I’ve not heard a lot of calls for unity,
You missed Joe Biden's victory speech?
wrote on 20 Dec 2020, 01:17 last edited by@george-k said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
@jon-nyc said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
I’ve not heard a lot of calls for unity,
You missed Joe Biden's victory speech?
I heard him say to Trump voters something like “we should give each other a chance”. I thought it was quite tastefully done.
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@george-k said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
@jon-nyc said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
I’ve not heard a lot of calls for unity,
You missed Joe Biden's victory speech?
I heard him say to Trump voters something like “we should give each other a chance”. I thought it was quite tastefully done.
wrote on 20 Dec 2020, 01:24 last edited byhttps://www.nola.com/news/politics/article_603be790-216f-11eb-af9b-77534692a49a.html
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-wins-white-house-ending-trump-presidency/ar-BB1aN7Ve
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/07/politics/biden-victory-speech-2020-election/index.html
And a few days ago:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/14/biden-election-coronavirus-attention-445216
Democracy prevailed': Biden urges unity as he condemns efforts to overturn election
As the Electoral College moves to seal his victory, the president-elect is shifting his attention to the pandemic.
"We saw something very few predicted, even thought possible: The biggest voter turnout in the history of the United States of America. A number so big that this election now ranks as the clearest demonstration of the true will of the American people," Biden said. "It should be celebrated, not attacked."
"In America, politicians don’t take power — the people grant it to them," Biden said. "The flame of democracy was lit in this nation a long time ago. And we now know that nothing — not even a pandemic —or an abuse of power — can extinguish that flame."
He decried Republicans' numerous legal challenges of the election results as an "unprecedented assault on our democracy" and called for solidarity across the partisan divide.
Biden praised election workers who braved a global pandemic and also an unprecedented misinformation campaign claiming the election was rife with fraud. He also denounced threats of violence at election workers and officials from conspiracy theorists buying into Trump's claims of a stolen election.
"It is my sincere hope we never again see anyone subjected to the kind of threats and abuse we saw in this election," Biden said. "It's simply unconscionable."
Biden also used the speech to emphasize his public commitment to being "president for all Americans," not only those who voted for him.
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wrote on 20 Dec 2020, 01:37 last edited by
@george-k said in Historic Russian hack uncovered:
He decried Republicans' numerous legal challenges of the election results as an "unprecedented assault on our democracy" and called for solidarity across the partisan divide.
I think we have a remarkable amount of that. Lots of Republicans are horrified at what Trump is doing. Even many that are outwardly going along with it.
