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  • G George K
    12 Dec 2020, 21:58

    @Klaus said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

    Maybe it's the "...then I'll take everything else down with me" bunker psychology

    But is he really? Yeah, he's replaced people (for a total of 6-7 weeks), but I don't see him trying to burn down the country. Even if he fires Barr, what effect will that have on the nation? Nothing.

    The only thing burning is his reputation, and sadly, the good work he's done in the Middle East is going unnoticed.

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    Renauda
    wrote on 12 Dec 2020, 23:58 last edited by Renauda
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    @George-K said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

    ..., and sadly, the good work he's done in the Middle East is going unnoticed.

    To my thinking the Trump Administration's foreign policy in the Middle East is just as problematic and empty as that of its recent predecessors.

    Gwynne Dyer sums it up rather well:

    https://www.thespec.com/opinion/contributors/2020/09/18/there-is-very-little-truly-new-about-donald-trumps-new-middle-east.html

    Elbows up!

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    • C Copper
      12 Dec 2020, 23:50

      He simply exhausted his options, in a close race.

      Anyone who doesn't do this is a quitter.

      And should be ashamed that they let their supporters down.

      The quitters Gore and Clinton come to mind.

      The lasting value in this is that the process will be scrutinized and updated. It will be Trump-proofed, assuming our law-makers can remember how to make laws.

      For now, let's all thank Mr. Trump for introducing us to our system.

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      89th
      wrote on 12 Dec 2020, 23:59 last edited by
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      @Copper said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

      He simply exhausted his options, in a close race.

      It wasn’t a close race.

      Biden won by a landslide, according to Trump’s own words.

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      • K Klaus
        12 Dec 2020, 23:01

        @George-K said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

        @Klaus said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

        Maybe it's the "...then I'll take everything else down with me" bunker psychology

        But is he really? Yeah, he's replaced people (for a total of 6-7 weeks), but I don't see him trying to burn down the country. Even if he fires Barr, what effect will that have on the nation? Nothing.

        The only thing burning is his reputation, and sadly, the good work he's done in the Middle East is going unnoticed.

        He's putting the axe on the most important pillar of any democracy, namely the concept to accept a loss of an election and not tell your gullible supporters that the election was "stolen", without ever presenting evidence that survives a day in court. A democracy can only live and survive when a certain set of rules is accepted by everyone. He's pissed on those rules, and I doubt they can be cleaned easily. They'll stink for decades. You'll maybe find some "but they did it, too" stuff, but there's nothing that comes close in magnitude.

        What could be a more effective way to burn down a country than this?

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        Larry
        wrote on 13 Dec 2020, 02:26 last edited by
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        @Klaus said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

        @George-K said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

        @Klaus said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

        Maybe it's the "...then I'll take everything else down with me" bunker psychology

        But is he really? Yeah, he's replaced people (for a total of 6-7 weeks), but I don't see him trying to burn down the country. Even if he fires Barr, what effect will that have on the nation? Nothing.

        The only thing burning is his reputation, and sadly, the good work he's done in the Middle East is going unnoticed.

        He's putting the axe on the most important pillar of any democracy, namely the concept to accept a loss of an election and not tell your gullible supporters that the election was "stolen", without ever presenting evidence that survives a day in court. A democracy can only live and survive when a certain set of rules is accepted by everyone. He's pissed on those rules, and I doubt they can be cleaned easily. They'll stink for decades. You'll maybe find some "but they did it, too" stuff, but there's nothing that comes close in magnitude.

        What could be a more effective way to burn down a country than this?

        Bull shit. A democracy can only survive as long as people feel they can trust the results of an election. But you ARE correct that to survive requires a certain set of rules be accepted by everyone. Apparently you missed the part where the 4 states in question did NOT do that, and changed the rules right before election day. THEY are the ones who pissed on the rules.

        It's mind numbing to hear how uninformed the Left is.

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        • 8 89th
          12 Dec 2020, 23:59

          @Copper said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

          He simply exhausted his options, in a close race.

          It wasn’t a close race.

          Biden won by a landslide, according to Trump’s own words.

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          Larry
          wrote on 13 Dec 2020, 02:27 last edited by
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          @89th said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

          @Copper said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

          He simply exhausted his options, in a close race.

          It wasn’t a close race.

          Biden won by a landslide, according to Trump’s own words.

          Trump has never said that. That is a bare faced lie and you know it.

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          • R Renauda
            12 Dec 2020, 23:58

            @George-K said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

            ..., and sadly, the good work he's done in the Middle East is going unnoticed.

            To my thinking the Trump Administration's foreign policy in the Middle East is just as problematic and empty as that of its recent predecessors.

            Gwynne Dyer sums it up rather well:

            https://www.thespec.com/opinion/contributors/2020/09/18/there-is-very-little-truly-new-about-donald-trumps-new-middle-east.html

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            Larry
            wrote on 13 Dec 2020, 02:28 last edited by
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            @Renauda said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

            @George-K said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

            ..., and sadly, the good work he's done in the Middle East is going unnoticed.

            To my thinking the Trump Administration's foreign policy in the Middle East is just as problematic and empty as any that of its recent predecessors.

            Gwynne Dyer sums it up rather well:

            https://www.thespec.com/opinion/contributors/2020/09/18/there-is-very-little-truly-new-about-donald-trumps-new-middle-east.html

            If there's nothing new about it, then tell me why the fuck nobody else did it?

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            • C Catseye3
              12 Dec 2020, 23:57

              @Moonbat said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

              I still don't really get why there isn't a greater outcry from Democrats and Republicans alike over this

              I like to think it's because there is such widespread fedupedness with this guy that nobody -- nooobody, in any party, wants to slow his exit. Everybody's like, "No roadblocks! NO ROADBLOCKS!"

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              Larry
              wrote on 13 Dec 2020, 02:33 last edited by
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              @Catseye3 said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

              @Moonbat said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

              I still don't really get why there isn't a greater outcry from Democrats and Republicans alike over this

              I like to think it's because there is such widespread fedupedness with this guy that nobody -- nooobody, in any party, wants to slow his exit. Everybody's like, "No roadblocks! NO ROADBLOCKS!"

              I'll tell you who is about to be fed up. It's the 75 million Americans currently being made fun of, who are getting sick of the corruptness of the Left, and getting just as sick of all the stupid lies being spread by the Left and the self righteous, self important sheep on the Left. The level of ignorant bull shit being spewed here by the "Biden won" morons is just staggering.

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              • L Larry
                13 Dec 2020, 02:27

                @89th said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                @Copper said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                He simply exhausted his options, in a close race.

                It wasn’t a close race.

                Biden won by a landslide, according to Trump’s own words.

                Trump has never said that. That is a bare faced lie and you know it.

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                89th
                wrote on 13 Dec 2020, 02:51 last edited by
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                @Larry said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                @89th said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                @Copper said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                He simply exhausted his options, in a close race.

                It wasn’t a close race.

                Biden won by a landslide, according to Trump’s own words.

                Trump has never said that. That is a bare faced lie and you know it.

                Nope. Trump said in 2016 that winning with 306 electoral votes is a landslide. That’s how much Biden won with. So in Trump’s own words, Biden’s 306 votes was a landslide. See quote below from an interview he gave on Fox News Sunday in Nov 2016:

                "We had a massive landslide victory, as you know, in the Electoral College. I guess the final numbers are now at 306.”

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                • L Larry
                  13 Dec 2020, 02:26

                  @Klaus said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                  @George-K said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                  @Klaus said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                  Maybe it's the "...then I'll take everything else down with me" bunker psychology

                  But is he really? Yeah, he's replaced people (for a total of 6-7 weeks), but I don't see him trying to burn down the country. Even if he fires Barr, what effect will that have on the nation? Nothing.

                  The only thing burning is his reputation, and sadly, the good work he's done in the Middle East is going unnoticed.

                  He's putting the axe on the most important pillar of any democracy, namely the concept to accept a loss of an election and not tell your gullible supporters that the election was "stolen", without ever presenting evidence that survives a day in court. A democracy can only live and survive when a certain set of rules is accepted by everyone. He's pissed on those rules, and I doubt they can be cleaned easily. They'll stink for decades. You'll maybe find some "but they did it, too" stuff, but there's nothing that comes close in magnitude.

                  What could be a more effective way to burn down a country than this?

                  Bull shit. A democracy can only survive as long as people feel they can trust the results of an election. But you ARE correct that to survive requires a certain set of rules be accepted by everyone. Apparently you missed the part where the 4 states in question did NOT do that, and changed the rules right before election day. THEY are the ones who pissed on the rules.

                  It's mind numbing to hear how uninformed the Left is.

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                  89th
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                  • L Larry
                    13 Dec 2020, 02:33

                    @Catseye3 said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                    @Moonbat said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                    I still don't really get why there isn't a greater outcry from Democrats and Republicans alike over this

                    I like to think it's because there is such widespread fedupedness with this guy that nobody -- nooobody, in any party, wants to slow his exit. Everybody's like, "No roadblocks! NO ROADBLOCKS!"

                    I'll tell you who is about to be fed up. It's the 75 million Americans currently being made fun of, who are getting sick of the corruptness of the Left, and getting just as sick of all the stupid lies being spread by the Left and the self righteous, self important sheep on the Left. The level of ignorant bull shit being spewed here by the "Biden won" morons is just staggering.

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                    89th
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                      89th
                      wrote on 13 Dec 2020, 02:59 last edited by
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                      I’m done trying to convince you of reality. You said Biden didn’t win. He did. You said I’ve been 100% wrong, I showed you I was right since my predictions in July. You said Trump didn’t make the claim about what a landslide victory is, I showed you he did. The sun is hot. Water is wet. Call me when you’ve accepted reality otherwise trying to convince you is a fool’s errand.

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                      • 8 89th
                        13 Dec 2020, 02:51

                        @Larry said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                        @89th said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                        @Copper said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                        He simply exhausted his options, in a close race.

                        It wasn’t a close race.

                        Biden won by a landslide, according to Trump’s own words.

                        Trump has never said that. That is a bare faced lie and you know it.

                        Nope. Trump said in 2016 that winning with 306 electoral votes is a landslide. That’s how much Biden won with. So in Trump’s own words, Biden’s 306 votes was a landslide. See quote below from an interview he gave on Fox News Sunday in Nov 2016:

                        "We had a massive landslide victory, as you know, in the Electoral College. I guess the final numbers are now at 306.”

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                        Larry
                        wrote on 13 Dec 2020, 03:45 last edited by
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                        @89th said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                        @Larry said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                        @89th said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                        @Copper said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                        He simply exhausted his options, in a close race.

                        It wasn’t a close race.

                        Biden won by a landslide, according to Trump’s own words.

                        Trump has never said that. That is a bare faced lie and you know it.

                        Nope. Trump said in 2016 that winning with 306 electoral votes is a landslide. That’s how much Biden won with. So in Trump’s own words, Biden’s 306 votes was a landslide. See quote below from an interview he gave on Fox News Sunday in Nov 2016:

                        "We had a massive landslide victory, as you know, in the Electoral College. I guess the final numbers are now at 306.”

                        Ok you make the claim that Trump said Biden won by a landslide, then defend your lie by taking another lie - that Biden actually won all those votes - nd tacking a comment that Trump made that had absolutely nothing to do with Biden, and you expect me to think you're clever....

                        You are sick.

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                        • 8 89th
                          13 Dec 2020, 02:59

                          I’m done trying to convince you of reality. You said Biden didn’t win. He did. You said I’ve been 100% wrong, I showed you I was right since my predictions in July. You said Trump didn’t make the claim about what a landslide victory is, I showed you he did. The sun is hot. Water is wet. Call me when you’ve accepted reality otherwise trying to convince you is a fool’s errand.

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                          Larry
                          wrote on 13 Dec 2020, 03:47 last edited by
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                          @89th said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                          I’m done trying to convince you of reality. You said Biden didn’t win. He did. You said I’ve been 100% wrong, I showed you I was right since my predictions in July. You said Trump didn’t make the claim about what a landslide victory is, I showed you he did. The sun is hot. Water is wet. Call me when you’ve accepted reality otherwise trying to convince you is a fool’s errand.

                          Biden DID NOT FUCKING WIN!! Once again with the "agree with me or else " bull shit. Son, I can't help it that you're a stubborn git. But im getting gad damned tired of you telling me Biden won by a landslide when he did nothing of the kind.

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                            Klaus
                            wrote on 13 Dec 2020, 06:26 last edited by
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                            It’s sad to watch somebody become completely detached from reality and live in a phantasy world.

                            Remember, if all the other cars seem to drive in the wrong direction, it’s you who went the wrong way on the freeway.

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                              Larry
                              wrote on 13 Dec 2020, 07:35 last edited by
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                              Fuck you.

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                              • L Larry
                                11 Dec 2020, 20:00

                                @Moonbat said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                                @Larry said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                                @Moonbat said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                                @Larry said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                                Maybe. Maybe not.

                                But sooner or later the truth WILL come out. Just like the truth about Biden's criminal activities, and the democrat party's collusion with China.

                                What would it take to convince you that the election result is legitimate and voter fraud did not play a significant role?

                                I would have to have a lobotomy. Because no one - no. One. Looking at the numbers honestly believes Biden won this election.

                                So you've already decided and nothing could make you change your mind. Hmm I think you were lecturing TG about being open minded a while ago, you might want to think about that.

                                That's not what I said. Let me simplify it for you. There are so many things that are impossible to do that would have to have been done for Biden to get the votes you're being told that he got that to believe he achieved the impossible not once, but dozens of times, can only be believed by a person with their brain disconnected. The odds of it all happening the way it is being claimed was recently stated as being one chance in one quadrillion to the 4th power.

                                I believe people can hit the lotto too. But I am not willing to be pushed into believing that one of the most corrupt politicians in the most corrupt political party hit a 1 in 1 quadriion to the 4th power lotto.

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                                Nunatax
                                wrote on 13 Dec 2020, 10:38 last edited by
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                                @Larry said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                                That's not what I said. Let me simplify it for you. There are so many things that are impossible to do that would have to have been done for Biden to get the votes you're being told that he got that to believe he achieved the impossible not once, but dozens of times, can only be believed by a person with their brain disconnected. The odds of it all happening the way it is being claimed was recently stated as being one chance in one quadrillion to the 4th power.

                                I believe people can hit the lotto too. But I am not willing to be pushed into believing that one of the most corrupt politicians in the most corrupt political party hit a 1 in 1 quadriion to the 4th power lotto.

                                You should really have a look at how they arrived at that number. The assumptions behind it are pretty ridiculous.

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                                • L Larry
                                  13 Dec 2020, 03:47

                                  @89th said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                                  I’m done trying to convince you of reality. You said Biden didn’t win. He did. You said I’ve been 100% wrong, I showed you I was right since my predictions in July. You said Trump didn’t make the claim about what a landslide victory is, I showed you he did. The sun is hot. Water is wet. Call me when you’ve accepted reality otherwise trying to convince you is a fool’s errand.

                                  Biden DID NOT FUCKING WIN!! Once again with the "agree with me or else " bull shit. Son, I can't help it that you're a stubborn git. But im getting gad damned tired of you telling me Biden won by a landslide when he did nothing of the kind.

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 13 Dec 2020, 16:34 last edited by
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                                  @larry said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                                  Biden DID NOT FUCKING WIN!!

                                  At least not until he receives congratulations from the President Putin.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    12 Dec 2020, 23:58

                                    @George-K said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                                    ..., and sadly, the good work he's done in the Middle East is going unnoticed.

                                    To my thinking the Trump Administration's foreign policy in the Middle East is just as problematic and empty as that of its recent predecessors.

                                    Gwynne Dyer sums it up rather well:

                                    https://www.thespec.com/opinion/contributors/2020/09/18/there-is-very-little-truly-new-about-donald-trumps-new-middle-east.html

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                                    wrote on 13 Dec 2020, 19:56 last edited by
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                                    @renauda said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                                    @George-K said in Trump trying to get the GOP to sign on to Texas’s useless lawsuit:

                                    ..., and sadly, the good work he's done in the Middle East is going unnoticed.

                                    To my thinking the Trump Administration's foreign policy in the Middle East is just as problematic and empty as that of its recent predecessors.

                                    Gwynne Dyer sums it up rather well:

                                    https://www.thespec.com/opinion/contributors/2020/09/18/there-is-very-little-truly-new-about-donald-trumps-new-middle-east.html

                                    And in other news, they openly celebrated Hannukah in Dubai.

                                    Remind me which other U.S. President that happened under....

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 13 Dec 2020, 21:53 last edited by
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                                      Wait, what?

                                      There are now 52 states? When did that happen?

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                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 14 Dec 2020, 00:25 last edited by Mik
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                                        57, I heard.

                                        The Democratic party has tried for four years through dishonorable and deceitful measures to overturn the 2016 election - anything they could think of. It is by no means delusional to believe they cheated in this one. To what degree is unknown. Sadly it does not seem to be provable.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          wrote on 14 Dec 2020, 00:33 last edited by
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                                          Less than 5 months after President Trumps inauguration:

                                          Link to video

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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