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  • George KG Offline
    George KG Offline
    George K
    wrote on last edited by George K
    #1

    Now:

    https://washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-lame-duck-policies/2020/12/06/8165088c-3661-11eb-a997-1f4c53d2a747_story.html…

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    Then:

    https://t.co/M3DK6ZFuJu?amp=1

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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • CopperC Offline
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      Copper
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      #2

      tradition

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        jon-nyc
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        #3

        One piece of advice that Obama gave Trump at the last transition was over reliance on executive orders was a mistake because they didn’t endure like legislation.

        That was ridiculed here at the time, but we’ll see how true it is starting late afternoon on January 20th.

        You were warned.

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          Pens run out of ink, and the cellphone plan expires, amirite?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
            #5

            Yeah. Also exec orders are really vulnerable to courts.

            It seems relatively easy to venue shop and get a friendly judge to issue a nationwide injunction.

            As Trump found out over and over. Obama too for that matter.

            You were warned.

            George KG 1 Reply Last reply
            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Yeah. Also exec orders are really vulnerable to courts.

              It seems relatively easy to venue shop and get a friendly judge to issue a nationwide injunction.

              As Trump found out over and over. Obama too for that matter.

              George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by George K
              #6

              @jon-nyc said in Lame Duck:

              Also exec orders are really vulnerable to courts.
              It seems relatively easy to venue shop and get a friendly judge to issue a nationwide injunction.

              [cough] DACA [cough]

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                And the Muslim ban. And letting employers omit birth control coverage. And the citizenship question on the census. And family separations. And the asylum ban. And defunding sanctuary cities. And...

                You were warned.

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                • MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
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                  #8

                  All of which indicates Congress is not doing the job.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    And the Muslim ban. And letting employers omit birth control coverage. And the citizenship question on the census. And family separations. And the asylum ban. And defunding sanctuary cities. And...

                    George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in Lame Duck:

                    the Muslim ban.

                    Indonesia was unaware that it was a "Muslim" ban, apparently. Neither was Pakistan.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
                      jon-nycJ Online
                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                      #10

                      George - the 'muslim ban' was how he described it. The actual exec orders (there were several, they kept losing so getting rewritten) were written to not be so obviously unconstitutional. It took them three tries I think.

                      You were warned.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        And the Muslim ban. And letting employers omit birth control coverage. And the citizenship question on the census. And family separations. And the asylum ban. And defunding sanctuary cities. And...

                        LarryL Offline
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                        Larry
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                        #11

                        @jon-nyc said in Lame Duck:

                        And the Muslim ban. And letting employers omit birth control coverage. And the citizenship question on the census. And family separations. And the asylum ban. And defunding sanctuary cities. And...

                        There was no "Muslim ban". The entire purpose of the census is to count citizens, not everyone in the country. The "family separations" was nothing more than the exact same thing if you get arrested and have children with you. Sanctuary cities violate the Constitution, and they SHOULD be refunded.

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                          jon-nyc
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                          #12

                          Lol Larry. Not much point in arguing about these now that he lost. Really just pointing out the fact that these were EOs rejected by courts.

                          You were warned.

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                          • LarryL Larry

                            @jon-nyc said in Lame Duck:

                            And the Muslim ban. And letting employers omit birth control coverage. And the citizenship question on the census. And family separations. And the asylum ban. And defunding sanctuary cities. And...

                            There was no "Muslim ban". The entire purpose of the census is to count citizens, not everyone in the country. The "family separations" was nothing more than the exact same thing if you get arrested and have children with you. Sanctuary cities violate the Constitution, and they SHOULD be refunded.

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                            Axtremus
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                            #13

                            @Larry said in Lame Duck:

                            The entire purpose of the census is to count citizens, not everyone in the country.

                            Again it seems @Larry needs a civic lesson. The Constitution, as amended by the 14th Amendment, is very clear about “counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.”

                            The only Constitutionally supported exclusion is “Indians not taxes.” There is no exclusion based on citizenship status.

                            Again, @Larry, you are advised to retake civic classes and, this time, please pay attention in class, ‘mkay?

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              Lol Larry. Not much point in arguing about these now that he lost. Really just pointing out the fact that these were EOs rejected by courts.

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                              Larry
                              wrote on last edited by
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                              @jon-nyc said in Lame Duck:

                              Lol Larry. Not much point in arguing about these now that he lost. Really just pointing out the fact that these were EOs rejected by courts.

                              He hasn't lost yet.

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                              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                @Larry said in Lame Duck:

                                The entire purpose of the census is to count citizens, not everyone in the country.

                                Again it seems @Larry needs a civic lesson. The Constitution, as amended by the 14th Amendment, is very clear about “counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.”

                                The only Constitutionally supported exclusion is “Indians not taxes.” There is no exclusion based on citizenship status.

                                Again, @Larry, you are advised to retake civic classes and, this time, please pay attention in class, ‘mkay?

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                                Larry
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                                #15

                                @Axtremus said in Lame Duck:

                                @Larry said in Lame Duck:

                                The entire purpose of the census is to count citizens, not everyone in the country.

                                Again it seems @Larry needs a civic lesson. The Constitution, as amended by the 14th Amendment, is very clear about “counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.”

                                The only Constitutionally supported exclusion is “Indians not taxes.” There is no exclusion based on citizenship status.

                                Again, @Larry, you are advised to retake civic classes and, this time, please pay attention in class, ‘mkay?

                                Fuck you. Legal residents who are not citizens are counted, yes. I was referring to illegals. If you had a functioning brain I wouldn't have to tell you that.

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                                • LarryL Larry

                                  @Axtremus said in Lame Duck:

                                  @Larry said in Lame Duck:

                                  The entire purpose of the census is to count citizens, not everyone in the country.

                                  Again it seems @Larry needs a civic lesson. The Constitution, as amended by the 14th Amendment, is very clear about “counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.”

                                  The only Constitutionally supported exclusion is “Indians not taxes.” There is no exclusion based on citizenship status.

                                  Again, @Larry, you are advised to retake civic classes and, this time, please pay attention in class, ‘mkay?

                                  Fuck you. Legal residents who are not citizens are counted, yes. I was referring to illegals. If you had a functioning brain I wouldn't have to tell you that.

                                  AxtremusA Offline
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                                  Axtremus
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                                  #16

                                  @Larry said in Lame Duck:

                                  Legal residents who are not citizens are counted, yes. I was referring to illegals. If you had a functioning brain I wouldn't have to tell you that.

                                  Again, the Constitution (14th Amendment) says to count "the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.” There is no exclusion based on the legal status of residency. The only exclusion is for "Indians not taxed."

                                  You really need to retake your civic classes, maybe also remedial English so you can comprehend simple English text like "counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.” Be sure to pay attention in class.

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                                  • LarryL Offline
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                                    Larry
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #17

                                    Fuck you.

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                                    • bachophileB Offline
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                                      bachophile
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                                      Just to be pedantic, on June 2 1924 a federal statute made all non citizen Indians born in the territorial limits of the US, automatically citizens of the US and the taxed versus non taxed distinction ceased to exist.

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