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  • MikM Away
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #8

    All of which indicates Congress is not doing the job.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      And the Muslim ban. And letting employers omit birth control coverage. And the citizenship question on the census. And family separations. And the asylum ban. And defunding sanctuary cities. And...

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      George K
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      #9

      @jon-nyc said in Lame Duck:

      the Muslim ban.

      Indonesia was unaware that it was a "Muslim" ban, apparently. Neither was Pakistan.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
        #10

        George - the 'muslim ban' was how he described it. The actual exec orders (there were several, they kept losing so getting rewritten) were written to not be so obviously unconstitutional. It took them three tries I think.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          And the Muslim ban. And letting employers omit birth control coverage. And the citizenship question on the census. And family separations. And the asylum ban. And defunding sanctuary cities. And...

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          Larry
          wrote on last edited by
          #11

          @jon-nyc said in Lame Duck:

          And the Muslim ban. And letting employers omit birth control coverage. And the citizenship question on the census. And family separations. And the asylum ban. And defunding sanctuary cities. And...

          There was no "Muslim ban". The entire purpose of the census is to count citizens, not everyone in the country. The "family separations" was nothing more than the exact same thing if you get arrested and have children with you. Sanctuary cities violate the Constitution, and they SHOULD be refunded.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
            #12

            Lol Larry. Not much point in arguing about these now that he lost. Really just pointing out the fact that these were EOs rejected by courts.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • LarryL Larry

              @jon-nyc said in Lame Duck:

              And the Muslim ban. And letting employers omit birth control coverage. And the citizenship question on the census. And family separations. And the asylum ban. And defunding sanctuary cities. And...

              There was no "Muslim ban". The entire purpose of the census is to count citizens, not everyone in the country. The "family separations" was nothing more than the exact same thing if you get arrested and have children with you. Sanctuary cities violate the Constitution, and they SHOULD be refunded.

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              Axtremus
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              #13

              @Larry said in Lame Duck:

              The entire purpose of the census is to count citizens, not everyone in the country.

              Again it seems @Larry needs a civic lesson. The Constitution, as amended by the 14th Amendment, is very clear about “counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.”

              The only Constitutionally supported exclusion is “Indians not taxes.” There is no exclusion based on citizenship status.

              Again, @Larry, you are advised to retake civic classes and, this time, please pay attention in class, ‘mkay?

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Lol Larry. Not much point in arguing about these now that he lost. Really just pointing out the fact that these were EOs rejected by courts.

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                Larry
                wrote on last edited by
                #14

                @jon-nyc said in Lame Duck:

                Lol Larry. Not much point in arguing about these now that he lost. Really just pointing out the fact that these were EOs rejected by courts.

                He hasn't lost yet.

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  @Larry said in Lame Duck:

                  The entire purpose of the census is to count citizens, not everyone in the country.

                  Again it seems @Larry needs a civic lesson. The Constitution, as amended by the 14th Amendment, is very clear about “counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.”

                  The only Constitutionally supported exclusion is “Indians not taxes.” There is no exclusion based on citizenship status.

                  Again, @Larry, you are advised to retake civic classes and, this time, please pay attention in class, ‘mkay?

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                  Larry
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                  #15

                  @Axtremus said in Lame Duck:

                  @Larry said in Lame Duck:

                  The entire purpose of the census is to count citizens, not everyone in the country.

                  Again it seems @Larry needs a civic lesson. The Constitution, as amended by the 14th Amendment, is very clear about “counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.”

                  The only Constitutionally supported exclusion is “Indians not taxes.” There is no exclusion based on citizenship status.

                  Again, @Larry, you are advised to retake civic classes and, this time, please pay attention in class, ‘mkay?

                  Fuck you. Legal residents who are not citizens are counted, yes. I was referring to illegals. If you had a functioning brain I wouldn't have to tell you that.

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                  • LarryL Larry

                    @Axtremus said in Lame Duck:

                    @Larry said in Lame Duck:

                    The entire purpose of the census is to count citizens, not everyone in the country.

                    Again it seems @Larry needs a civic lesson. The Constitution, as amended by the 14th Amendment, is very clear about “counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.”

                    The only Constitutionally supported exclusion is “Indians not taxes.” There is no exclusion based on citizenship status.

                    Again, @Larry, you are advised to retake civic classes and, this time, please pay attention in class, ‘mkay?

                    Fuck you. Legal residents who are not citizens are counted, yes. I was referring to illegals. If you had a functioning brain I wouldn't have to tell you that.

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                    Axtremus
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                    #16

                    @Larry said in Lame Duck:

                    Legal residents who are not citizens are counted, yes. I was referring to illegals. If you had a functioning brain I wouldn't have to tell you that.

                    Again, the Constitution (14th Amendment) says to count "the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.” There is no exclusion based on the legal status of residency. The only exclusion is for "Indians not taxed."

                    You really need to retake your civic classes, maybe also remedial English so you can comprehend simple English text like "counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.” Be sure to pay attention in class.

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                      Larry
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                      #17

                      Fuck you.

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                        bachophile
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                        #18

                        Just to be pedantic, on June 2 1924 a federal statute made all non citizen Indians born in the territorial limits of the US, automatically citizens of the US and the taxed versus non taxed distinction ceased to exist.

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