Lame Duck
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wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 18:58 last edited by
One piece of advice that Obama gave Trump at the last transition was over reliance on executive orders was a mistake because they didn’t endure like legislation.
That was ridiculed here at the time, but we’ll see how true it is starting late afternoon on January 20th.
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wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 19:12 last edited by
Pens run out of ink, and the cellphone plan expires, amirite?
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wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 19:17 last edited by jon-nyc 12 Jul 2020, 19:17
Yeah. Also exec orders are really vulnerable to courts.
It seems relatively easy to venue shop and get a friendly judge to issue a nationwide injunction.
As Trump found out over and over. Obama too for that matter.
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Yeah. Also exec orders are really vulnerable to courts.
It seems relatively easy to venue shop and get a friendly judge to issue a nationwide injunction.
As Trump found out over and over. Obama too for that matter.
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wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 20:02 last edited by
And the Muslim ban. And letting employers omit birth control coverage. And the citizenship question on the census. And family separations. And the asylum ban. And defunding sanctuary cities. And...
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wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 20:06 last edited by
All of which indicates Congress is not doing the job.
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And the Muslim ban. And letting employers omit birth control coverage. And the citizenship question on the census. And family separations. And the asylum ban. And defunding sanctuary cities. And...
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wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 20:12 last edited by jon-nyc 12 Jul 2020, 20:20
George - the 'muslim ban' was how he described it. The actual exec orders (there were several, they kept losing so getting rewritten) were written to not be so obviously unconstitutional. It took them three tries I think.
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And the Muslim ban. And letting employers omit birth control coverage. And the citizenship question on the census. And family separations. And the asylum ban. And defunding sanctuary cities. And...
wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 20:55 last edited byAnd the Muslim ban. And letting employers omit birth control coverage. And the citizenship question on the census. And family separations. And the asylum ban. And defunding sanctuary cities. And...
There was no "Muslim ban". The entire purpose of the census is to count citizens, not everyone in the country. The "family separations" was nothing more than the exact same thing if you get arrested and have children with you. Sanctuary cities violate the Constitution, and they SHOULD be refunded.
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wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 21:17 last edited by jon-nyc 12 Jul 2020, 21:25
Lol Larry. Not much point in arguing about these now that he lost. Really just pointing out the fact that these were EOs rejected by courts.
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And the Muslim ban. And letting employers omit birth control coverage. And the citizenship question on the census. And family separations. And the asylum ban. And defunding sanctuary cities. And...
There was no "Muslim ban". The entire purpose of the census is to count citizens, not everyone in the country. The "family separations" was nothing more than the exact same thing if you get arrested and have children with you. Sanctuary cities violate the Constitution, and they SHOULD be refunded.
wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 21:32 last edited byThe entire purpose of the census is to count citizens, not everyone in the country.
Again it seems @Larry needs a civic lesson. The Constitution, as amended by the 14th Amendment, is very clear about “counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.”
The only Constitutionally supported exclusion is “Indians not taxes.” There is no exclusion based on citizenship status.
Again, @Larry, you are advised to retake civic classes and, this time, please pay attention in class, ‘mkay?
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Lol Larry. Not much point in arguing about these now that he lost. Really just pointing out the fact that these were EOs rejected by courts.
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The entire purpose of the census is to count citizens, not everyone in the country.
Again it seems @Larry needs a civic lesson. The Constitution, as amended by the 14th Amendment, is very clear about “counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.”
The only Constitutionally supported exclusion is “Indians not taxes.” There is no exclusion based on citizenship status.
Again, @Larry, you are advised to retake civic classes and, this time, please pay attention in class, ‘mkay?
wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 21:52 last edited byThe entire purpose of the census is to count citizens, not everyone in the country.
Again it seems @Larry needs a civic lesson. The Constitution, as amended by the 14th Amendment, is very clear about “counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.”
The only Constitutionally supported exclusion is “Indians not taxes.” There is no exclusion based on citizenship status.
Again, @Larry, you are advised to retake civic classes and, this time, please pay attention in class, ‘mkay?
Fuck you. Legal residents who are not citizens are counted, yes. I was referring to illegals. If you had a functioning brain I wouldn't have to tell you that.
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The entire purpose of the census is to count citizens, not everyone in the country.
Again it seems @Larry needs a civic lesson. The Constitution, as amended by the 14th Amendment, is very clear about “counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.”
The only Constitutionally supported exclusion is “Indians not taxes.” There is no exclusion based on citizenship status.
Again, @Larry, you are advised to retake civic classes and, this time, please pay attention in class, ‘mkay?
Fuck you. Legal residents who are not citizens are counted, yes. I was referring to illegals. If you had a functioning brain I wouldn't have to tell you that.
wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 22:04 last edited byLegal residents who are not citizens are counted, yes. I was referring to illegals. If you had a functioning brain I wouldn't have to tell you that.
Again, the Constitution (14th Amendment) says to count "the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.” There is no exclusion based on the legal status of residency. The only exclusion is for "Indians not taxed."
You really need to retake your civic classes, maybe also remedial English so you can comprehend simple English text like "counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.” Be sure to pay attention in class.
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wrote on 7 Dec 2020, 22:54 last edited by
Fuck you.
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wrote on 8 Dec 2020, 08:39 last edited by
Just to be pedantic, on June 2 1924 a federal statute made all non citizen Indians born in the territorial limits of the US, automatically citizens of the US and the taxed versus non taxed distinction ceased to exist.