The Media Fellating Thread
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All of which nonsense about righteousness is just a smokescreen over my original point - you cannot support abortion and call yourself a 'deeply religious Catholic'.
@mik said in The Media Fellating Thread:
All of which nonsense about righteousness is just a smokescreen over my original point - you cannot support abortion and call yourself a 'deeply religious Catholic'.
Phibes just explained how that's wrong.
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@mik said in The Media Fellating Thread:
Not that I can see.
You can be very religious (strong devotion and belief in a higher power) and not be down with abortions. But you know what I mean so if we disagree, fine.
My point about righteousness wasn't a smokescreen. I think it's far more important than arguing over what Catholicism teaches about abortion, which isn't the least bit ambiguous. The social messaging problem causes harm to others where it exists, and it's fixable, so I think they should try.
Please love yourself.
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From the "Politics" section of WaPo:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/20/biden-oval-office/
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@mik said in The Media Fellating Thread:
Not that I can see.
You can be very religious (strong devotion and belief in a higher power) and not be down with abortions. But you know what I mean so if we disagree, fine.
My point about righteousness wasn't a smokescreen. I think it's far more important than arguing over what Catholicism teaches about abortion, which isn't the least bit ambiguous. The social messaging problem causes harm to others where it exists, and it's fixable, so I think they should try.
@aqua-letifer said in The Media Fellating Thread:
@mik said in The Media Fellating Thread:
Not that I can see.
You can be very religious (strong devotion and belief in a higher power) and not be down with abortions. But you know what I mean so if we disagree, fine.
My point about righteousness wasn't a smokescreen. I think it's far more important than arguing over what Catholicism teaches about abortion, which isn't the least bit ambiguous. The social messaging problem causes harm to others where it exists, and it's fixable, so I think they should try.
Agree. I think you can be a strong member of X , but not believe absolutely 100% everything that they stand for.
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@aqua-letifer said in The Media Fellating Thread:
@mik said in The Media Fellating Thread:
Not that I can see.
You can be very religious (strong devotion and belief in a higher power) and not be down with abortions. But you know what I mean so if we disagree, fine.
My point about righteousness wasn't a smokescreen. I think it's far more important than arguing over what Catholicism teaches about abortion, which isn't the least bit ambiguous. The social messaging problem causes harm to others where it exists, and it's fixable, so I think they should try.
Agree. I think you can be a strong member of X , but not believe absolutely 100% everything that they stand for.
@taiwan_girl said in The Media Fellating Thread:
@aqua-letifer said in The Media Fellating Thread:
@mik said in The Media Fellating Thread:
Not that I can see.
You can be very religious (strong devotion and belief in a higher power) and not be down with abortions. But you know what I mean so if we disagree, fine.
My point about righteousness wasn't a smokescreen. I think it's far more important than arguing over what Catholicism teaches about abortion, which isn't the least bit ambiguous. The social messaging problem causes harm to others where it exists, and it's fixable, so I think they should try.
Agree. I think you can be a strong member of X , but not believe absolutely 100% everything that they stand for.
Yeah, but that’s a pretty basic tenet. The only argument that I can give weight to is if they argue that they are 100% against abortion, but believe that it’s not the Government’s prerogative to make that call. Which is an argument that I would like to have. But that’s never been Biden’s stance.
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How many Roman Catholics use artificial contraception of some form or other?
Yeah, yeah, not the same thing. But aren't you then just haggling about price?
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How many Roman Catholics use artificial contraception of some form or other?
Yeah, yeah, not the same thing. But aren't you then just haggling about price?
@doctor-phibes said in The Media Fellating Thread:
How many Roman Catholics use artificial contraception of some form or other?
Yeah, yeah, not the same thing. But aren't you then just haggling about price?
Not at all, especially when dealing with Catholocism and their rankings of Venial and Mortal Sins. There is a world of difference between preventing life from happening and ending a life that has begun.
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So you're saying it's acceptable for devout Catholics to ignore some teaching, but they must follow other rules.
Do you think Cardinal Bernard Law was a devout Catholic? Bear in mind he was allowed to lead a Mass in the Vatican for Pope JP-II in front of thousands of followers.
I was only joking
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@george-k said in The Media Fellating Thread:
As opposed to the last FLOTUS who was literally a fashion model and designer.
But she's not a doctor, so there's that.Amen! Melania was a fashionista, no question. Except for that schmatte she rode to Florida in. Ugh!
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So you're saying it's acceptable for devout Catholics to ignore some teaching, but they must follow other rules.
Do you think Cardinal Bernard Law was a devout Catholic? Bear in mind he was allowed to lead a Mass in the Vatican for Pope JP-II in front of thousands of followers.
@doctor-phibes said in The Media Fellating Thread:
So you're saying it's acceptable for devout Catholics to ignore some teaching, but they must follow other rules.
Not at all, for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God and must ask for forgiveness. That's a basic tenet of Christianity. That doesn't mean it's okay to sin, just that forgiveness is Now the Catholic church has a very rigorous and defined system of how to ask for forgiveness and a penance system with varying levels based on the seriousness of the sin. I'm not defending that system or promoting it. Just pointing out that it exists. And the penance for artificial birth control is on a whole different order than abortion... To the Catholic faith Abortion is a whole different level of bad than Birth Control.
This isn't a conversation about whether the Catholic Church is right or wrong on their stances and views, this is a conversation about whether or not President Biden can be considered a devout Catholic. When there are questions about whether or not you are fit to receive communion, I think we can say safely say that many of the Church leaders don't consider Biden as a devout Catholic.
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@george-k said in The Media Fellating Thread:
As opposed to the last FLOTUS who was literally a fashion model and designer.
But she's not a doctor, so there's that.
On Trump‘s inauguration day, Melania also wore a design by American designer Hervé Pierre. Pierre is French born but naturalized and became an American citizen. So Melania’s inauguration gown can be considered an American design.
On Biden’s inauguration day, Melania reportedly wore designs by Dolce & Gabbana (Italian), Gucci (Italian), and Chanel (French), so “not American” designs.
If we compare only the days when they moved into the White House, Melania should at least get just as much credit in terms of “bringing American fashion into the White House.”
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Ms. Biden is a heroic woman.
She is a real Doctor, not like these medical doctors who think it is OK to trim MD down to D.
Where do they come off claiming the word all to themselves.
You go Jill!
Don't give those elite old men la-di-dah MDs anything.
Change is coming.
Unity!
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I'm waiting for all the articles about what Doug Emhoff is wearing.
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@mik said in The Media Fellating Thread:
You can't be a deeply religious Catholic and support abortion. You just can't.
Bullshit. I know many.
@mark said in The Media Fellating Thread:
@mik said in The Media Fellating Thread:
You can't be a deeply religious Catholic and support abortion. You just can't.
Bullshit. I know many.
Then they aren't Catholic, let alone Christian.
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@mark said in The Media Fellating Thread:
@mik said in The Media Fellating Thread:
You can't be a deeply religious Catholic and support abortion. You just can't.
Bullshit. I know many.
Then they aren't Catholic, let alone Christian.
@jolly said in The Media Fellating Thread:
@mark said in The Media Fellating Thread:
@mik said in The Media Fellating Thread:
You can't be a deeply religious Catholic and support abortion. You just can't.
Bullshit. I know many.
Then they aren't Catholic, let alone Christian.
Hiding behind "the Truth is what it is" to justify lack of empathy when discussing the matter doesn't seem very Christian to me, either.
Please love yourself.
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We had a similar discussion in an earlier thread when I asked what was the definition of a religious person.
Who sets the rules.
favor abortion? Not a christian
favor killing people who favor abortion? ChristianI am not a religious person because I think too many people try to hide behind religion, using it as a "crutch" in both good times and bad.
Hate to use President Trump as an example, but he "embrace" religion when he was running for President. Do I think he was religious? No, but he seemed to think (or was told) that that was something that would make him seem more agreeable to people.
Does President Biden really religious? Maybe not.
Does it really matter? Does that make a person a better President? I seriously doubt it.
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@jolly said in The Media Fellating Thread:
@mark said in The Media Fellating Thread:
@mik said in The Media Fellating Thread:
You can't be a deeply religious Catholic and support abortion. You just can't.
Bullshit. I know many.
Then they aren't Catholic, let alone Christian.
Hiding behind "the Truth is what it is" to justify lack of empathy when discussing the matter doesn't seem very Christian to me, either.
@aqua-letifer said in The Media Fellating Thread:
@jolly said in The Media Fellating Thread:
@mark said in The Media Fellating Thread:
@mik said in The Media Fellating Thread:
You can't be a deeply religious Catholic and support abortion. You just can't.
Bullshit. I know many.
Then they aren't Catholic, let alone Christian.
Hiding behind "the Truth is what it is" to justify lack of empathy when discussing the matter doesn't seem very Christian to me, either.
Seem doesn't enter into it. You want to argue the point, pick up a Bible and beat your head against it. It's an unequivocal, clearly explained deal breaker.
You cannot wantonly kill innocent human life on one hand and declare yourself a practicing Christian on the other.
