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The Media Fellating Thread

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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    @ivorythumper said in The Media Fellating Thread:

    Was that intended to be ironic?

    Nope. I know plenty of Catholics, absolutely plenty, who think their righteousness exempts them from developing social graces. I don't understand why that is. Quite obviously it's unnecessary. How many rape victims have you browbeaten about having an abortion? I'm guessing none, ever.

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    #88

    @aqua-letifer said in The Media Fellating Thread:

    @ivorythumper said in The Media Fellating Thread:

    Was that intended to be ironic?

    Nope. I know plenty of Catholics, absolutely plenty, who think their righteousness exempts them from developing social graces. I don't understand why that is. Quite obviously it's unnecessary. How many rape victims have you browbeaten about having an abortion? I'm guessing none, ever.

    I assume "developing social graces" means that they should never ever say anything that might conflict with your worldview. Maybe killing and mutilating babies is a practice that conflicts with theirs.

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      #89

      All of which nonsense about righteousness is just a smokescreen over my original point - you cannot support abortion and call yourself a 'deeply religious Catholic'.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Horace
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        #90

        To my mind, believing in the divinity of Christ is a bridge further than believing that abortion is murder.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • Catseye3C Catseye3

          @aqua-letifer said in The Media Fellating Thread:

          ope. I know plenty of Catholics, absolutely plenty, who think their righteousness exempts them from developing social graces.

          Why restrict it to Catholics? My experience is that that characteristic extends over all faiths. Or it can.

          And yes, that brand of righteousness is particularly obnoxious.

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          Aqua Letifer
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          #91

          @catseye3 said in The Media Fellating Thread:

          Why restrict it to Catholics?

          Because that's what we're talking about at the moment.

          Please love yourself.

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          • MikM Mik

            All of which nonsense about righteousness is just a smokescreen over my original point - you cannot support abortion and call yourself a 'deeply religious Catholic'.

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            #92

            @mik said in The Media Fellating Thread:

            All of which nonsense about righteousness is just a smokescreen over my original point - you cannot support abortion and call yourself a 'deeply religious Catholic'.

            Phibes just explained how that's wrong.

            Please love yourself.

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              #93

              Not that I can see.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • MikM Mik

                Not that I can see.

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                @mik said in The Media Fellating Thread:

                Not that I can see.

                You can be very religious (strong devotion and belief in a higher power) and not be down with abortions. But you know what I mean so if we disagree, fine.

                My point about righteousness wasn't a smokescreen. I think it's far more important than arguing over what Catholicism teaches about abortion, which isn't the least bit ambiguous. The social messaging problem causes harm to others where it exists, and it's fixable, so I think they should try.

                Please love yourself.

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                  George K
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                  #95

                  From the "Politics" section of WaPo:

                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/20/biden-oval-office/

                  Screen Shot 2021-01-21 at 7.26.46 AM.png

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • CopperC Offline
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                    Copper
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                    #96

                    Is that a portrait of Ben Franklin, the slave owner?

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      @mik said in The Media Fellating Thread:

                      Not that I can see.

                      You can be very religious (strong devotion and belief in a higher power) and not be down with abortions. But you know what I mean so if we disagree, fine.

                      My point about righteousness wasn't a smokescreen. I think it's far more important than arguing over what Catholicism teaches about abortion, which isn't the least bit ambiguous. The social messaging problem causes harm to others where it exists, and it's fixable, so I think they should try.

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                      @aqua-letifer said in The Media Fellating Thread:

                      @mik said in The Media Fellating Thread:

                      Not that I can see.

                      You can be very religious (strong devotion and belief in a higher power) and not be down with abortions. But you know what I mean so if we disagree, fine.

                      My point about righteousness wasn't a smokescreen. I think it's far more important than arguing over what Catholicism teaches about abortion, which isn't the least bit ambiguous. The social messaging problem causes harm to others where it exists, and it's fixable, so I think they should try.

                      Agree. I think you can be a strong member of X , but not believe absolutely 100% everything that they stand for.

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                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        @aqua-letifer said in The Media Fellating Thread:

                        @mik said in The Media Fellating Thread:

                        Not that I can see.

                        You can be very religious (strong devotion and belief in a higher power) and not be down with abortions. But you know what I mean so if we disagree, fine.

                        My point about righteousness wasn't a smokescreen. I think it's far more important than arguing over what Catholicism teaches about abortion, which isn't the least bit ambiguous. The social messaging problem causes harm to others where it exists, and it's fixable, so I think they should try.

                        Agree. I think you can be a strong member of X , but not believe absolutely 100% everything that they stand for.

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                        @taiwan_girl said in The Media Fellating Thread:

                        @aqua-letifer said in The Media Fellating Thread:

                        @mik said in The Media Fellating Thread:

                        Not that I can see.

                        You can be very religious (strong devotion and belief in a higher power) and not be down with abortions. But you know what I mean so if we disagree, fine.

                        My point about righteousness wasn't a smokescreen. I think it's far more important than arguing over what Catholicism teaches about abortion, which isn't the least bit ambiguous. The social messaging problem causes harm to others where it exists, and it's fixable, so I think they should try.

                        Agree. I think you can be a strong member of X , but not believe absolutely 100% everything that they stand for.

                        Yeah, but that’s a pretty basic tenet. The only argument that I can give weight to is if they argue that they are 100% against abortion, but believe that it’s not the Government’s prerogative to make that call. Which is an argument that I would like to have. But that’s never been Biden’s stance.

                        The Brad

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                          #99

                          How many Roman Catholics use artificial contraception of some form or other?

                          Yeah, yeah, not the same thing. But aren't you then just haggling about price?

                          I was only joking

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            How many Roman Catholics use artificial contraception of some form or other?

                            Yeah, yeah, not the same thing. But aren't you then just haggling about price?

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                            #100

                            @doctor-phibes said in The Media Fellating Thread:

                            How many Roman Catholics use artificial contraception of some form or other?

                            Yeah, yeah, not the same thing. But aren't you then just haggling about price?

                            Not at all, especially when dealing with Catholocism and their rankings of Venial and Mortal Sins. There is a world of difference between preventing life from happening and ending a life that has begun.

                            The Brad

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                              #101

                              So you're saying it's acceptable for devout Catholics to ignore some teaching, but they must follow other rules.

                              Do you think Cardinal Bernard Law was a devout Catholic? Bear in mind he was allowed to lead a Mass in the Vatican for Pope JP-II in front of thousands of followers.

                              I was only joking

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                                George K
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                                As opposed to the last FLOTUS who was literally a fashion model and designer.

                                But she's not a doctor, so there's that.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  As opposed to the last FLOTUS who was literally a fashion model and designer.

                                  But she's not a doctor, so there's that.

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                                  #103

                                  @george-k said in The Media Fellating Thread:

                                  As opposed to the last FLOTUS who was literally a fashion model and designer.
                                  But she's not a doctor, so there's that.

                                  Amen! Melania was a fashionista, no question. Except for that schmatte she rode to Florida in. Ugh!

                                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    So you're saying it's acceptable for devout Catholics to ignore some teaching, but they must follow other rules.

                                    Do you think Cardinal Bernard Law was a devout Catholic? Bear in mind he was allowed to lead a Mass in the Vatican for Pope JP-II in front of thousands of followers.

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                                    #104

                                    @doctor-phibes said in The Media Fellating Thread:

                                    So you're saying it's acceptable for devout Catholics to ignore some teaching, but they must follow other rules.

                                    Not at all, for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God and must ask for forgiveness. That's a basic tenet of Christianity. That doesn't mean it's okay to sin, just that forgiveness is Now the Catholic church has a very rigorous and defined system of how to ask for forgiveness and a penance system with varying levels based on the seriousness of the sin. I'm not defending that system or promoting it. Just pointing out that it exists. And the penance for artificial birth control is on a whole different order than abortion... To the Catholic faith Abortion is a whole different level of bad than Birth Control.

                                    This isn't a conversation about whether the Catholic Church is right or wrong on their stances and views, this is a conversation about whether or not President Biden can be considered a devout Catholic. When there are questions about whether or not you are fit to receive communion, I think we can say safely say that many of the Church leaders don't consider Biden as a devout Catholic.

                                    The Brad

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      As opposed to the last FLOTUS who was literally a fashion model and designer.

                                      But she's not a doctor, so there's that.

                                      AxtremusA Away
                                      AxtremusA Away
                                      Axtremus
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                                      @george-k said in The Media Fellating Thread:

                                      As opposed to the last FLOTUS who was literally a fashion model and designer.

                                      But she's not a doctor, so there's that.

                                      On Trump‘s inauguration day, Melania also wore a design by American designer Hervé Pierre. Pierre is French born but naturalized and became an American citizen. So Melania’s inauguration gown can be considered an American design.

                                      On Biden’s inauguration day, Melania reportedly wore designs by Dolce & Gabbana (Italian), Gucci (Italian), and Chanel (French), so “not American” designs.

                                      If we compare only the days when they moved into the White House, Melania should at least get just as much credit in terms of “bringing American fashion into the White House.”

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                                        Ms. Biden is a heroic woman.

                                        She is a real Doctor, not like these medical doctors who think it is OK to trim MD down to D.

                                        Where do they come off claiming the word all to themselves.

                                        You go Jill!

                                        Don't give those elite old men la-di-dah MDs anything.

                                        Change is coming.

                                        Unity!

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                                          #107

                                          I'm waiting for all the articles about what Doug Emhoff is wearing.

                                          I was only joking

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