The Media Fellating Thread
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@ivorythumper said in The Media Fellating Thread:
Was that intended to be ironic?
Nope. I know plenty of Catholics, absolutely plenty, who think their righteousness exempts them from developing social graces. I don't understand why that is. Quite obviously it's unnecessary. How many rape victims have you browbeaten about having an abortion? I'm guessing none, ever.
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@aqua-letifer said in The Media Fellating Thread:
ope. I know plenty of Catholics, absolutely plenty, who think their righteousness exempts them from developing social graces.
Why restrict it to Catholics? My experience is that that characteristic extends over all faiths. Or it can.
And yes, that brand of righteousness is particularly obnoxious.
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@aqua-letifer said in The Media Fellating Thread:
@ivorythumper said in The Media Fellating Thread:
Was that intended to be ironic?
Nope. I know plenty of Catholics, absolutely plenty, who think their righteousness exempts them from developing social graces. I don't understand why that is. Quite obviously it's unnecessary. How many rape victims have you browbeaten about having an abortion? I'm guessing none, ever.
I assume "developing social graces" means that they should never ever say anything that might conflict with your worldview. Maybe killing and mutilating babies is a practice that conflicts with theirs.
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@catseye3 said in The Media Fellating Thread:
Why restrict it to Catholics?
Because that's what we're talking about at the moment.
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@mik said in The Media Fellating Thread:
All of which nonsense about righteousness is just a smokescreen over my original point - you cannot support abortion and call yourself a 'deeply religious Catholic'.
Phibes just explained how that's wrong.
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"My pronouns are FA/FO." - Mik, 2024
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@mik said in The Media Fellating Thread:
Not that I can see.
You can be very religious (strong devotion and belief in a higher power) and not be down with abortions. But you know what I mean so if we disagree, fine.
My point about righteousness wasn't a smokescreen. I think it's far more important than arguing over what Catholicism teaches about abortion, which isn't the least bit ambiguous. The social messaging problem causes harm to others where it exists, and it's fixable, so I think they should try.
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From the "Politics" section of WaPo:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/20/biden-oval-office/
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@aqua-letifer said in The Media Fellating Thread:
@mik said in The Media Fellating Thread:
Not that I can see.
You can be very religious (strong devotion and belief in a higher power) and not be down with abortions. But you know what I mean so if we disagree, fine.
My point about righteousness wasn't a smokescreen. I think it's far more important than arguing over what Catholicism teaches about abortion, which isn't the least bit ambiguous. The social messaging problem causes harm to others where it exists, and it's fixable, so I think they should try.
Agree. I think you can be a strong member of X , but not believe absolutely 100% everything that they stand for.
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@taiwan_girl said in The Media Fellating Thread:
@aqua-letifer said in The Media Fellating Thread:
@mik said in The Media Fellating Thread:
Not that I can see.
You can be very religious (strong devotion and belief in a higher power) and not be down with abortions. But you know what I mean so if we disagree, fine.
My point about righteousness wasn't a smokescreen. I think it's far more important than arguing over what Catholicism teaches about abortion, which isn't the least bit ambiguous. The social messaging problem causes harm to others where it exists, and it's fixable, so I think they should try.
Agree. I think you can be a strong member of X , but not believe absolutely 100% everything that they stand for.
Yeah, but that’s a pretty basic tenet. The only argument that I can give weight to is if they argue that they are 100% against abortion, but believe that it’s not the Government’s prerogative to make that call. Which is an argument that I would like to have. But that’s never been Biden’s stance.
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How many Roman Catholics use artificial contraception of some form or other?
Yeah, yeah, not the same thing. But aren't you then just haggling about price?
Proud supporter of Plan 2525. Everything you think, do and say will be in the pill you took today.
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@doctor-phibes said in The Media Fellating Thread:
How many Roman Catholics use artificial contraception of some form or other?
Yeah, yeah, not the same thing. But aren't you then just haggling about price?
Not at all, especially when dealing with Catholocism and their rankings of Venial and Mortal Sins. There is a world of difference between preventing life from happening and ending a life that has begun.
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So you're saying it's acceptable for devout Catholics to ignore some teaching, but they must follow other rules.
Do you think Cardinal Bernard Law was a devout Catholic? Bear in mind he was allowed to lead a Mass in the Vatican for Pope JP-II in front of thousands of followers.
Proud supporter of Plan 2525. Everything you think, do and say will be in the pill you took today.
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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@george-k said in The Media Fellating Thread:
As opposed to the last FLOTUS who was literally a fashion model and designer.
But she's not a doctor, so there's that.Amen! Melania was a fashionista, no question. Except for that schmatte she rode to Florida in. Ugh!
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@doctor-phibes said in The Media Fellating Thread:
So you're saying it's acceptable for devout Catholics to ignore some teaching, but they must follow other rules.
Not at all, for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God and must ask for forgiveness. That's a basic tenet of Christianity. That doesn't mean it's okay to sin, just that forgiveness is Now the Catholic church has a very rigorous and defined system of how to ask for forgiveness and a penance system with varying levels based on the seriousness of the sin. I'm not defending that system or promoting it. Just pointing out that it exists. And the penance for artificial birth control is on a whole different order than abortion... To the Catholic faith Abortion is a whole different level of bad than Birth Control.
This isn't a conversation about whether the Catholic Church is right or wrong on their stances and views, this is a conversation about whether or not President Biden can be considered a devout Catholic. When there are questions about whether or not you are fit to receive communion, I think we can say safely say that many of the Church leaders don't consider Biden as a devout Catholic.
