USA and CSA
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wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 19:17 last edited by
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...
Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?
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@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...
Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?
wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 19:19 last edited by@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...
Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?
Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.
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@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...
Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?
Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.
wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 19:23 last edited by@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...
Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?
Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.
Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.
Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?
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@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...
Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?
Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.
Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.
Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?
wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 19:25 last edited by@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...
Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?
Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.
Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.
Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?
Yes.
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@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...
Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?
Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.
Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.
Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?
Yes.
wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 19:31 last edited by@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...
Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?
Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.
Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.
Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?
Yes.
Do you think a woman citizen in 1861 has more rights than a woman citizen in 2020?
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@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...
Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?
Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.
Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.
Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?
Yes.
Do you think a woman citizen in 1861 has more rights than a woman citizen in 2020?
wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 19:31 last edited by@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...
Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?
Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.
Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.
Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?
Yes.
Do you think a woman citizen in 1861 has more rights than a woman citizen in 2020?
Yes.
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@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...
Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?
Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.
Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.
Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?
Yes.
Do you think a woman citizen in 1861 has more rights than a woman citizen in 2020?
Yes.
wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 19:40 last edited by@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...
Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?
Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.
Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.
Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?
Yes.
Do you think a woman citizen in 1861 has more rights than a woman citizen in 2020?
Yes.
Then, quite simply, you think wrong and your world view is wrong.
Male citizens may have had more rights in 1861, but humans in general, once you include slaves and women, on the whole did not have more rights in 1861. If you have to exclude slaves and women to make a statement on rights, that statement means little. -
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...
Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?
Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.
Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.
Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?
Yes.
Do you think a woman citizen in 1861 has more rights than a woman citizen in 2020?
Yes.
Then, quite simply, you think wrong and your world view is wrong.
Male citizens may have had more rights in 1861, but humans in general, once you include slaves and women, on the whole did not have more rights in 1861. If you have to exclude slaves and women to make a statement on rights, that statement means little.wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 19:45 last edited by@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...
Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?
Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.
Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.
Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?
Yes.
Do you think a woman citizen in 1861 has more rights than a woman citizen in 2020?
Yes.
Then, quite simply, you think wrong and your world view is wrong.
Male citizens may have had more rights in 1861, but humans in general, once you include slaves and women, on the whole did not have more rights in 1861. If you have to exclude slaves and women to make a statement on rights, that statement means little.Women didn't die gruesomely in wars nearly at the level men did, either.
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@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...
Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?
Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.
Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.
Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?
Yes.
Do you think a woman citizen in 1861 has more rights than a woman citizen in 2020?
Yes.
Then, quite simply, you think wrong and your world view is wrong.
Male citizens may have had more rights in 1861, but humans in general, once you include slaves and women, on the whole did not have more rights in 1861. If you have to exclude slaves and women to make a statement on rights, that statement means little.wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 19:46 last edited by@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
@Axtremus said in USA and CSA:
@Jolly said in USA and CSA:
Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...
Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?
Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.
Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.
Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?
Yes.
Do you think a woman citizen in 1861 has more rights than a woman citizen in 2020?
Yes.
Then, quite simply, you think wrong and your world view is wrong.
Male citizens may have had more rights in 1861, but humans in general, once you include slaves and women, on the whole did not have more rights in 1861. If you have to exclude slaves and women to make a statement on rights, that statement means little.Don't know much about individual freedoms and state's rights do you?
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wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 19:56 last edited by
Enumerate them.