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    Jolly
    wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 19:12 last edited by
    #11

    Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

    A 1 Reply Last reply 18 Apr 2020, 19:17
    • J Jolly
      18 Apr 2020, 19:12

      Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...

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      Axtremus
      wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 19:17 last edited by
      #12

      @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

      Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...

      Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?

      J 1 Reply Last reply 18 Apr 2020, 19:19
      • A Axtremus
        18 Apr 2020, 19:17

        @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

        Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...

        Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?

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        Jolly
        wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 19:19 last edited by
        #13

        @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

        @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

        Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...

        Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?

        Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

        A 1 Reply Last reply 18 Apr 2020, 19:23
        • J Jolly
          18 Apr 2020, 19:19

          @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

          @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

          Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...

          Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?

          Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.

          A Away
          A Away
          Axtremus
          wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 19:23 last edited by
          #14

          @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

          @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

          @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

          Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...

          Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?

          Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.

          Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.

          Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?

          J 1 Reply Last reply 18 Apr 2020, 19:25
          • A Axtremus
            18 Apr 2020, 19:23

            @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

            @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

            @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

            Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...

            Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?

            Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.

            Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.

            Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?

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            Jolly
            wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 19:25 last edited by
            #15

            @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

            @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

            @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

            @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

            Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...

            Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?

            Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.

            Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.

            Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?

            Yes.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

            A 1 Reply Last reply 18 Apr 2020, 19:31
            • J Jolly
              18 Apr 2020, 19:25

              @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

              @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

              @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

              @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

              Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...

              Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?

              Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.

              Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.

              Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?

              Yes.

              A Away
              A Away
              Axtremus
              wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 19:31 last edited by
              #16

              @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

              @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

              @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

              @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

              @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

              Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...

              Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?

              Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.

              Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.

              Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?

              Yes.

              Do you think a woman citizen in 1861 has more rights than a woman citizen in 2020?

              J 1 Reply Last reply 18 Apr 2020, 19:31
              • A Axtremus
                18 Apr 2020, 19:31

                @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

                @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

                @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...

                Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?

                Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.

                Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.

                Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?

                Yes.

                Do you think a woman citizen in 1861 has more rights than a woman citizen in 2020?

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                Jolly
                wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 19:31 last edited by
                #17

                @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

                @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

                @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

                @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...

                Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?

                Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.

                Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.

                Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?

                Yes.

                Do you think a woman citizen in 1861 has more rights than a woman citizen in 2020?

                Yes.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                A 1 Reply Last reply 18 Apr 2020, 19:40
                • J Jolly
                  18 Apr 2020, 19:31

                  @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

                  @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                  @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

                  @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                  @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

                  @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                  Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...

                  Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?

                  Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.

                  Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.

                  Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?

                  Yes.

                  Do you think a woman citizen in 1861 has more rights than a woman citizen in 2020?

                  Yes.

                  A Away
                  A Away
                  Axtremus
                  wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 19:40 last edited by
                  #18

                  @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                  @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

                  @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                  @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

                  @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                  @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

                  @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                  Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...

                  Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?

                  Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.

                  Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.

                  Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?

                  Yes.

                  Do you think a woman citizen in 1861 has more rights than a woman citizen in 2020?

                  Yes.

                  Then, quite simply, you think wrong and your world view is wrong.
                  Male citizens may have had more rights in 1861, but humans in general, once you include slaves and women, on the whole did not have more rights in 1861. If you have to exclude slaves and women to make a statement on rights, that statement means little.

                  A J 2 Replies Last reply 18 Apr 2020, 19:45
                  • A Axtremus
                    18 Apr 2020, 19:40

                    @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                    @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

                    @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                    @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

                    @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                    @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

                    @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                    Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...

                    Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?

                    Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.

                    Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.

                    Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?

                    Yes.

                    Do you think a woman citizen in 1861 has more rights than a woman citizen in 2020?

                    Yes.

                    Then, quite simply, you think wrong and your world view is wrong.
                    Male citizens may have had more rights in 1861, but humans in general, once you include slaves and women, on the whole did not have more rights in 1861. If you have to exclude slaves and women to make a statement on rights, that statement means little.

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 19:45 last edited by
                    #19

                    @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

                    @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                    @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

                    @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                    @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

                    @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                    @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

                    @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                    Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...

                    Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?

                    Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.

                    Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.

                    Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?

                    Yes.

                    Do you think a woman citizen in 1861 has more rights than a woman citizen in 2020?

                    Yes.

                    Then, quite simply, you think wrong and your world view is wrong.
                    Male citizens may have had more rights in 1861, but humans in general, once you include slaves and women, on the whole did not have more rights in 1861. If you have to exclude slaves and women to make a statement on rights, that statement means little.

                    Women didn't die gruesomely in wars nearly at the level men did, either.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • A Axtremus
                      18 Apr 2020, 19:40

                      @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                      @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

                      @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                      @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

                      @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                      @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

                      @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                      Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...

                      Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?

                      Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.

                      Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.

                      Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?

                      Yes.

                      Do you think a woman citizen in 1861 has more rights than a woman citizen in 2020?

                      Yes.

                      Then, quite simply, you think wrong and your world view is wrong.
                      Male citizens may have had more rights in 1861, but humans in general, once you include slaves and women, on the whole did not have more rights in 1861. If you have to exclude slaves and women to make a statement on rights, that statement means little.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 19:46 last edited by
                      #20

                      @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

                      @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                      @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

                      @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                      @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

                      @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                      @Axtremus said in USA and CSA:

                      @Jolly said in USA and CSA:

                      Do remember, a citizen has less rights in 2020 than in 1861...

                      Which part of 1861, and do you consider slave a citizen?

                      Slaves weren't citizens in 1861, but you knew that. So did Lincoln, who would have gladly shipped them back to Africa.

                      Yeah, so you definitely know you were excluding slaves when you wrote that post.

                      Now let’s consider the women ... do you consider a woman a citizen in 1861?

                      Yes.

                      Do you think a woman citizen in 1861 has more rights than a woman citizen in 2020?

                      Yes.

                      Then, quite simply, you think wrong and your world view is wrong.
                      Male citizens may have had more rights in 1861, but humans in general, once you include slaves and women, on the whole did not have more rights in 1861. If you have to exclude slaves and women to make a statement on rights, that statement means little.

                      Don't know much about individual freedoms and state's rights do you?

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        Copper
                        wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 19:56 last edited by
                        #21

                        Enumerate them.

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