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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    George, so the Pfizer CEO never called Trump?

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      #11

      https://www.newsweek.com/pfizer-covid-vaccine-operation-warp-speed-trump-pence-1546024

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        By the way, George, that link in the Federaliast doesn't show them taking Warp Speed funding, it describes a contract for future sale that is conditional on FDA approval.

        So they were correct in saying they haven't gotten any funding from the Feds for this.

        eta: same with your link.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          The U.S. government will pay the companies $1.95 billion upon the receipt of the first 100 million doses, following FDA authorization or approval. The U.S. government also can acquire up to an additional 500 million doses.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            George, so the Pfizer CEO never called Trump?

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            @jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:

            George, so the Pfizer CEO never called Trump?

            I have no idea who called whom. What is clear is that the administration learned of it from the news media according to Azar, and that happened after the Biden team was informed.

            https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/11/10/wh_rips_post-election_timing_on_vaccine_it_is_a_scandal.html

            A senior White House aide told RealClearPolitics that the administration only learned of the vaccine from news reports. Biden, meanwhile, was notified the night before. He offered congratulations and heralded the breakthrough as a “cause for hope.” But he told the country to keep covering their faces.

            I wonder if they have proof that Biden was notified before.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              By the way, George, that link in the Federaliast doesn't show them taking Warp Speed funding, it describes a contract for future sale that is conditional on FDA approval.

              So they were correct in saying they haven't gotten any funding from the Feds for this.

              eta: same with your link.

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              @jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:

              So they were correct in saying they haven't gotten any funding from the Feds for this.

              I didn't comment on funding, only on notifications.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                By the way, George, that link in the Federaliast doesn't show them taking Warp Speed funding, it describes a contract for future sale that is conditional on FDA approval.

                So they were correct in saying they haven't gotten any funding from the Feds for this.

                eta: same with your link.

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                @jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:

                By the way, George, that link in the Federaliast doesn't show them taking Warp Speed funding, it describes a contract for future sale that is conditional on FDA approval.

                So they were correct in saying they haven't gotten any funding from the Feds for this.

                eta: same with your link.

                First thing, hang all the lawyers.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  @jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:

                  George, so the Pfizer CEO never called Trump?

                  I have no idea who called whom. What is clear is that the administration learned of it from the news media according to Azar, and that happened after the Biden team was informed.

                  https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/11/10/wh_rips_post-election_timing_on_vaccine_it_is_a_scandal.html

                  A senior White House aide told RealClearPolitics that the administration only learned of the vaccine from news reports. Biden, meanwhile, was notified the night before. He offered congratulations and heralded the breakthrough as a “cause for hope.” But he told the country to keep covering their faces.

                  I wonder if they have proof that Biden was notified before.

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                  @George-K said in We'll let POTUS know later:

                  @jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:

                  George, so the Pfizer CEO never called Trump?

                  I have no idea who called whom. What is clear is that the administration learned of it from the news media according to Azar, and that happened after the Biden team was informed.

                  https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/11/10/wh_rips_post-election_timing_on_vaccine_it_is_a_scandal.html

                  A senior White House aide told RealClearPolitics that the administration only learned of the vaccine from news reports. Biden, meanwhile, was notified the night before. He offered congratulations and heralded the breakthrough as a “cause for hope.” But he told the country to keep covering their faces.

                  I wonder if they have proof that Biden was notified before.

                  If so, that's truly, truly shitty.

                  But exactly what I would expect...

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    By the way, George, that link in the Federaliast doesn't show them taking Warp Speed funding, it describes a contract for future sale that is conditional on FDA approval.

                    So they were correct in saying they haven't gotten any funding from the Feds for this.

                    eta: same with your link.

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                    @jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:

                    By the way, George, that link in the Federaliast doesn't show them taking Warp Speed funding, it describes a contract for future sale that is conditional on FDA approval.

                    So they were correct in saying they haven't gotten any funding from the Feds for this.

                    eta: same with your link.

                    Oh come on, guy. They got nearly 2 billion dollars before they even had a product to sell.

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                      Ah, no they didn’t.

                      Read the fucking release. Or even just the quote I lifted from it.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • George KG George K

                        @jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:

                        So they were correct in saying they haven't gotten any funding from the Feds for this.

                        I didn't comment on funding, only on notifications.

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                        @George-K said in We'll let POTUS know later:

                        I didn't comment on funding, only on notifications.

                        You’re right. I just happened to see it mentioned in the link.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Ah, no they didn’t.

                          Read the fucking release. Or even just the quote I lifted from it.

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                          Larry
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                          #21

                          @jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:

                          Ah, no they didn’t.

                          Read the fucking release. Or even just the quote I lifted from it.

                          I read the fucking release. I also read the fucking back tracking the fucking CEO of fucking Pfizer was forced to put out when they got fucking called out for fucking lying.

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                            @jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:

                            Curious what it really means. Before like hours before? Or days?

                            Not sure how critical it is anyway. Biden was clearly the winner by the time they announced it and the information isn't even directly actionable. They can't apply for emergency approval until they reach the 2 month mark on their safety data which is next week I think?

                            It's still not clear that Biden won anything.

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                            @Larry said in We'll let POTUS know later:

                            It's still not clear that Biden won anything.

                            Y’all can take as much time as you need to traverse the stages of grief, but you can’t expect the world to pause while you do.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              I'm not "traversing grief" at all. If there are enough real voters to elect Biden, if there's enough voters legitimately stupid enough to let the democrats back in power, then I don't give a flying fuck any more. Take the country straight to hell.

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                                So here’s the company’s statement:

                                Pfizer is one of various vaccine manufacturers participating in Operation Warp Speed as a supplier of a potential COVID-19 vaccine," Castillo said in an email. "While Pfizer did reach an advanced purchase agreement with the U.S. government, the company did not accept (Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority) funding for the research and development process. All the investment for R&D was made by Pfizer at risk. Dr. Jansen was emphasizing that last point."

                                So yeah, “participating” in that the purchase of the doses, assuming it occurs, will come from that money.

                                But Pfizer is correct that they received no money. They got a PO. With conditions that haven’t been met yet.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  So that means it's ok to inform Biden before POTUS?

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    #26

                                    Seems disrespectful even for a lame duck, but not particularly consequential.

                                    I'd like to know his motivations. Might be something as simple as Biden could be trusted not to announce the news before the company did.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      So here’s the company’s statement:

                                      Pfizer is one of various vaccine manufacturers participating in Operation Warp Speed as a supplier of a potential COVID-19 vaccine," Castillo said in an email. "While Pfizer did reach an advanced purchase agreement with the U.S. government, the company did not accept (Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority) funding for the research and development process. All the investment for R&D was made by Pfizer at risk. Dr. Jansen was emphasizing that last point."

                                      So yeah, “participating” in that the purchase of the doses, assuming it occurs, will come from that money.

                                      But Pfizer is correct that they received no money. They got a PO. With conditions that haven’t been met yet.

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                                      @jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:

                                      So here’s the company’s statement:

                                      Pfizer is one of various vaccine manufacturers participating in Operation Warp Speed as a supplier of a potential COVID-19 vaccine," Castillo said in an email. "While Pfizer did reach an advanced purchase agreement with the U.S. government, the company did not accept (Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority) funding for the research and development process. All the investment for R&D was made by Pfizer at risk. Dr. Jansen was emphasizing that last point."

                                      So yeah, “participating” in that the purchase of the doses, assuming it occurs, will come from that money.

                                      But Pfizer is correct that they received no money. They got a PO. With conditions that haven’t been met yet.

                                      No, they got the money.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:

                                        The U.S. government will pay the companies $1.95 billion upon the receipt of the first 100 million doses, following FDA authorization or approval. The U.S. government also can acquire up to an additional 500 million doses.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          Same as everybody else.

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