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@Jolly said in Number Three:
I suspect Grant's memoirs and Obama's latest tome have similar inspirations... $$$$$$$$$$$$.
Grant knew he was dying and wanted to support Julia.
But he was pretty broke and, IIRC, lived partly off the help of Samuel Clemens.
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@taiwan_girl said in Number Three:
How much is too much? I think President Obama has made millions of dollars already.
Of course, it is like the saying - “what is the definition of rich?
Someone who has more money than me!“
I think very few people think themselves rich.
The old saying goes How much is enough? Twice what you got.
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Just as long as he doesn't start bloody painting
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@jon-nyc said in Number Three:
lived partly off the help of Samuel Clemens
Yes. He got ripped of by a publisher, iirc, and Clemens helped him out of that bind, and got contracts to get his stuff published as he wrote them.
And, he was dead within days of finishing the memoirs, unable to speak because of his oral cancer, and in horrible pain.
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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@Axtremus said in Number Three:
@Jolly said in Number Three:
I suspect Grant's memoirs and Obama's latest tome have similar inspirations... $$$$$$$$$$$$.
So what if they do? You a have a problem with writing books to make $$$$$$$$$$$$?
That's a democrat thing
Remember the Don't Buy Books by Crooks movement.
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@George-K said in Number Three:
@Axtremus said in Number Three:
So what if they do? You a have a problem with writing books to make $$$$$$$$$$$$?
At what point have you "made enough money?"
"Do you have a problem with writing books to make $$$$$$$$$$" and "at what point have you made enough money" are two separate questions.
I can tell you right now I do not have any problem with people writing books to make $$$$$$$$. I hope you can also tell me whether you have a problem with people writing books to make $$$$$$$$.
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@Axtremus said in Number Three:
I hope you can also tell me whether you have a problem with people writing books to make $$$$$$$$.
Of course I don't.
Since candidate Obama declared that there is a point at which one has made "enough money," I'm simply asking where that point is.
Do you have an opinion?
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@George-K said in Number Three:
Since candidate Obama declared that there is a point at which one has made "enough money," I'm simply asking where that point is.
Do you have an opinion?
To benefit only oneself, I say that that is when one has just enough to let one lives out one's natural life at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow men.
To benefit one's fellow men, I say that that is when one has just enough to raise the standards of living of one's fellow men by the amount to which one aspires.
What's your opinion for that same question?
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@Axtremus said in Number Three:
one has just enough to let one lives out one's natural life at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow men.
On Martha's Vineyard on a $12M home.
Okay, then.
By what order of magnitude do you estimate BHO has exceeded that?
Should he donate the excess to charity? To reduce the national debt? To give it to you?
How about me?
I'll take it!
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@George-K said in Number Three:
@Axtremus said in Number Three:
one has just enough to let one lives out one's natural life at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow men.
By what order of magnitude do you estimate BHO has exceeded that?
You neglected the second part of my answer about making money to benefit one's fellow men. Have you established that BHO is making all this money just for himself? Do you know he will not be donating profits from his books to charitable foundations?
Still, let's see if you have an opinion on the question of at what point one has made enough money.
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@Axtremus said in Number Three:
Have you established that BHO is making all this money just for himself?
Nope. I'll let you do that.
Let's see BHO sell his Martha's Vineyard house and move to Austin in Chicago.
Hell, let's see him move to Evanston or Hinsdale.
When he does that, I'll give your comment some (moderately) serious consideration. Until that time, you're just blowing smoke.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@George-K said in Number Three:
@Axtremus said in Number Three:
let's see if you have an opinion on the question of at what point one has made enough money.
I asked the question because Obama made the statement. You're one of his supporters.
What is that point?
Ah, I see, you personally do not think BHO was right with that statement, that you do not think there is a point when one has made enough money. That's fine.
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@Axtremus said in Number Three:
I see, you personally do not think BHO was right with that statement, that you do not think there is a point when one has made enough money. That's fine.
That's right.
So, was Obama lying then?
If not, what is that point?
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@George-K said in Number Three:
@Axtremus said in Number Three:
Have you established that BHO is making all this money just for himself?
Nope. I'll let you do that.
Let's see BHO sell his Martha's Vineyard house and move to Austin in Chicago.
Hell, let's see him move to Evanston or Hinsdale.
When he does that, I'll give your comment some (moderately) serious consideration. Until that time, you're just blowing smoke.
It's alright, given Obama's track records on charitable givings to date, so far I am quite comfortable with how Obama handles the wealth under his control vis a vis his contributions to benefit his fellow men.
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@Axtremus said in Number Three:
It's alright, given Obama's track records on charitable givings to date, so far I am quite comfortable with how Obama handles the wealth under his control vis a vis his contributions to benefit his fellow men.
That's not what you said.
At all.
You implied that one should not aspire to more than other people earn.
To benefit only oneself, I say that that is when one has just enough to let one lives out one's natural life at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow men.
Do you really think that BHO should have just enough to live his life out at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow man?
C'mon, man! Don't be a chump!
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@George-K said in Number Three:
@Axtremus said in Number Three:
It's alright, given Obama's track records on charitable givings to date, so far I am quite comfortable with how Obama handles the wealth under his control vis a vis his contributions to benefit his fellow men.
That's not what you said.
At all.
You implied that one should not aspire to more than other people earn.
To benefit only oneself, I say that that is when one has just enough to let one lives out one's natural life at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow men.
You're still missing the second part of what I wrote: "To benefit one's fellow men, I say that that is when one has just enough to raise the standards of living of one's fellow men by the amount to which one aspires."
Philosophically, I am quite OK with accumulating more capital than is enough for oneself when the intention is to then deploy such 'excess' capital to benefit one's fellow men.
Do you really think that BHO should have just enough to live his life out at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow man?
I'm optimistic that BHO has big plans, that within his lifetime, will give away or otherwise deploy much of his accumulated wealth to benefit his fellow men and, in the process, brings his remaining wealth kept for his own benefit closer to the standard I laid out. Why do I have this optimism? Based on Obama's track record at charitable giving to date, that's why.
