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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    Axtremus
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    #2

    The guy is basically "retired" and has time on his hand.
    If he wants to write more books, more power to him.
    He was elected (relatively) young and left office (relatively) young.
    He's got a lot of time ahead of him.
    Maybe someday he will lead an internationally respected think tank and charitable foundation like what Jimmy Carter has done with the Carter Center.

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      jon-nyc
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      I think a few things have happened since his second memoir. Like 8 years of presidency?

      People sometimes say Grant has the best presidential memoir. But he literally ends his memoir right before being elected. Of course he finished it on his death bed, and it was his civil war career that made his reputation, not his so-so presidency.

      You were warned.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        I suspect Grant's memoirs and Obama's latest tome have similar inspirations... $$$$$$$$$$$$.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          I suspect Grant's memoirs and Obama's latest tome have similar inspirations... $$$$$$$$$$$$.

          George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #5

          @Jolly said in Number Three:

          I suspect Grant's memoirs and Obama's latest tome have similar inspirations... $$$$$$$$$$$$.

          The rest of that statement is that Grant used the income he got to pay off bills and creditors due to his horrible investing skills and attention to crooks and grifters. He probably never visited Martha's Vineyard.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • taiwan_girlT Online
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            How much is too much? I think President Obama has made millions of dollars already.

            Of course, it is like the saying - “what is the definition of rich?

            Someone who has more money than me!“

            I think very few people think themselves rich.

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              How much is too much? I think President Obama has made millions of dollars already.

              Of course, it is like the saying - “what is the definition of rich?

              Someone who has more money than me!“

              I think very few people think themselves rich.

              George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #7

              @taiwan_girl said in Number Three:

              How much is too much? I think President Obama has made millions of dollars already.

              It's a shame that BHO isn't here to tell us how much is too much.

              However, he did say "At some point you've made enough money." Apparently, he hasn't reached that point yet.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                I suspect Grant's memoirs and Obama's latest tome have similar inspirations... $$$$$$$$$$$$.

                jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
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                @Jolly said in Number Three:

                I suspect Grant's memoirs and Obama's latest tome have similar inspirations... $$$$$$$$$$$$.

                Grant knew he was dying and wanted to support Julia.

                But he was pretty broke and, IIRC, lived partly off the help of Samuel Clemens.

                You were warned.

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  How much is too much? I think President Obama has made millions of dollars already.

                  Of course, it is like the saying - “what is the definition of rich?

                  Someone who has more money than me!“

                  I think very few people think themselves rich.

                  jon-nycJ Online
                  jon-nycJ Online
                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #9

                  @taiwan_girl said in Number Three:

                  How much is too much? I think President Obama has made millions of dollars already.

                  Of course, it is like the saying - “what is the definition of rich?

                  Someone who has more money than me!“

                  I think very few people think themselves rich.

                  The old saying goes How much is enough? Twice what you got.

                  You were warned.

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                    Just as long as he doesn't start bloody painting 😉

                    I was only joking

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      @Jolly said in Number Three:

                      I suspect Grant's memoirs and Obama's latest tome have similar inspirations... $$$$$$$$$$$$.

                      Grant knew he was dying and wanted to support Julia.

                      But he was pretty broke and, IIRC, lived partly off the help of Samuel Clemens.

                      George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      @jon-nyc said in Number Three:

                      lived partly off the help of Samuel Clemens

                      Yes. He got ripped of by a publisher, iirc, and Clemens helped him out of that bind, and got contracts to get his stuff published as he wrote them.

                      And, he was dead within days of finishing the memoirs, unable to speak because of his oral cancer, and in horrible pain.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        I suspect Grant's memoirs and Obama's latest tome have similar inspirations... $$$$$$$$$$$$.

                        AxtremusA Offline
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                        Axtremus
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                        @Jolly said in Number Three:

                        I suspect Grant's memoirs and Obama's latest tome have similar inspirations... $$$$$$$$$$$$.

                        So what if they do? You a have a problem with writing books to make $$$$$$$$$$$$?

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          @Jolly said in Number Three:

                          I suspect Grant's memoirs and Obama's latest tome have similar inspirations... $$$$$$$$$$$$.

                          So what if they do? You a have a problem with writing books to make $$$$$$$$$$$$?

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                          George K
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                          @Axtremus said in Number Three:

                          So what if they do? You a have a problem with writing books to make $$$$$$$$$$$$?

                          At what point have you "made enough money?"

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • AxtremusA Axtremus

                            @Jolly said in Number Three:

                            I suspect Grant's memoirs and Obama's latest tome have similar inspirations... $$$$$$$$$$$$.

                            So what if they do? You a have a problem with writing books to make $$$$$$$$$$$$?

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                            @Axtremus said in Number Three:

                            @Jolly said in Number Three:

                            I suspect Grant's memoirs and Obama's latest tome have similar inspirations... $$$$$$$$$$$$.

                            So what if they do? You a have a problem with writing books to make $$$$$$$$$$$$?

                            That's a democrat thing

                            Remember the Don't Buy Books by Crooks movement.

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                            • JollyJ Offline
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                              Jolly
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                              Well, Palin don't like it...

                              https://www.newsweek.com/sarah-palin-blasts-obama-book-tying-her-anti-intellectuals-says-gop-dislikes-trump-never-1547499

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • George KG George K

                                @Axtremus said in Number Three:

                                So what if they do? You a have a problem with writing books to make $$$$$$$$$$$$?

                                At what point have you "made enough money?"

                                AxtremusA Offline
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                                Axtremus
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                                #16

                                @George-K said in Number Three:

                                @Axtremus said in Number Three:

                                So what if they do? You a have a problem with writing books to make $$$$$$$$$$$$?

                                At what point have you "made enough money?"

                                "Do you have a problem with writing books to make $$$$$$$$$$" and "at what point have you made enough money" are two separate questions.

                                I can tell you right now I do not have any problem with people writing books to make $$$$$$$$. I hope you can also tell me whether you have a problem with people writing books to make $$$$$$$$.

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                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  @George-K said in Number Three:

                                  @Axtremus said in Number Three:

                                  So what if they do? You a have a problem with writing books to make $$$$$$$$$$$$?

                                  At what point have you "made enough money?"

                                  "Do you have a problem with writing books to make $$$$$$$$$$" and "at what point have you made enough money" are two separate questions.

                                  I can tell you right now I do not have any problem with people writing books to make $$$$$$$$. I hope you can also tell me whether you have a problem with people writing books to make $$$$$$$$.

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                                  George K
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                                  @Axtremus said in Number Three:

                                  I hope you can also tell me whether you have a problem with people writing books to make $$$$$$$$.

                                  Of course I don't.

                                  Since candidate Obama declared that there is a point at which one has made "enough money," I'm simply asking where that point is.

                                  Do you have an opinion?

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @Axtremus said in Number Three:

                                    I hope you can also tell me whether you have a problem with people writing books to make $$$$$$$$.

                                    Of course I don't.

                                    Since candidate Obama declared that there is a point at which one has made "enough money," I'm simply asking where that point is.

                                    Do you have an opinion?

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                                    Axtremus
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                                    @George-K said in Number Three:

                                    Since candidate Obama declared that there is a point at which one has made "enough money," I'm simply asking where that point is.

                                    Do you have an opinion?

                                    To benefit only oneself, I say that that is when one has just enough to let one lives out one's natural life at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow men.

                                    To benefit one's fellow men, I say that that is when one has just enough to raise the standards of living of one's fellow men by the amount to which one aspires.

                                    What's your opinion for that same question?

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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                      @George-K said in Number Three:

                                      Since candidate Obama declared that there is a point at which one has made "enough money," I'm simply asking where that point is.

                                      Do you have an opinion?

                                      To benefit only oneself, I say that that is when one has just enough to let one lives out one's natural life at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow men.

                                      To benefit one's fellow men, I say that that is when one has just enough to raise the standards of living of one's fellow men by the amount to which one aspires.

                                      What's your opinion for that same question?

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                                      George K
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                                      @Axtremus said in Number Three:

                                      one has just enough to let one lives out one's natural life at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow men.

                                      On Martha's Vineyard on a $12M home.

                                      Okay, then.

                                      By what order of magnitude do you estimate BHO has exceeded that?

                                      Should he donate the excess to charity? To reduce the national debt? To give it to you?

                                      How about me?

                                      I'll take it!

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @Axtremus said in Number Three:

                                        one has just enough to let one lives out one's natural life at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow men.

                                        On Martha's Vineyard on a $12M home.

                                        Okay, then.

                                        By what order of magnitude do you estimate BHO has exceeded that?

                                        Should he donate the excess to charity? To reduce the national debt? To give it to you?

                                        How about me?

                                        I'll take it!

                                        AxtremusA Offline
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                                        Axtremus
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                                        @George-K said in Number Three:

                                        @Axtremus said in Number Three:

                                        one has just enough to let one lives out one's natural life at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow men.

                                        By what order of magnitude do you estimate BHO has exceeded that?

                                        You neglected the second part of my answer about making money to benefit one's fellow men. Have you established that BHO is making all this money just for himself? Do you know he will not be donating profits from his books to charitable foundations?

                                        Still, let's see if you have an opinion on the question of at what point one has made enough money.

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                                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                          @George-K said in Number Three:

                                          @Axtremus said in Number Three:

                                          one has just enough to let one lives out one's natural life at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow men.

                                          By what order of magnitude do you estimate BHO has exceeded that?

                                          You neglected the second part of my answer about making money to benefit one's fellow men. Have you established that BHO is making all this money just for himself? Do you know he will not be donating profits from his books to charitable foundations?

                                          Still, let's see if you have an opinion on the question of at what point one has made enough money.

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                                          George K
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                                          @Axtremus said in Number Three:

                                          Have you established that BHO is making all this money just for himself?

                                          Nope. I'll let you do that.

                                          Let's see BHO sell his Martha's Vineyard house and move to Austin in Chicago.

                                          Hell, let's see him move to Evanston or Hinsdale.

                                          When he does that, I'll give your comment some (moderately) serious consideration. Until that time, you're just blowing smoke.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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