Number Three
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@Jolly said in Number Three:
I suspect Grant's memoirs and Obama's latest tome have similar inspirations... $$$$$$$$$$$$.
So what if they do? You a have a problem with writing books to make $$$$$$$$$$$$?
wrote on 14 Nov 2020, 23:39 last edited by@Axtremus said in Number Three:
@Jolly said in Number Three:
I suspect Grant's memoirs and Obama's latest tome have similar inspirations... $$$$$$$$$$$$.
So what if they do? You a have a problem with writing books to make $$$$$$$$$$$$?
That's a democrat thing
Remember the Don't Buy Books by Crooks movement.
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wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 01:09 last edited by
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@Axtremus said in Number Three:
So what if they do? You a have a problem with writing books to make $$$$$$$$$$$$?
At what point have you "made enough money?"
wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 01:21 last edited by@George-K said in Number Three:
@Axtremus said in Number Three:
So what if they do? You a have a problem with writing books to make $$$$$$$$$$$$?
At what point have you "made enough money?"
"Do you have a problem with writing books to make $$$$$$$$$$" and "at what point have you made enough money" are two separate questions.
I can tell you right now I do not have any problem with people writing books to make $$$$$$$$. I hope you can also tell me whether you have a problem with people writing books to make $$$$$$$$.
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@George-K said in Number Three:
@Axtremus said in Number Three:
So what if they do? You a have a problem with writing books to make $$$$$$$$$$$$?
At what point have you "made enough money?"
"Do you have a problem with writing books to make $$$$$$$$$$" and "at what point have you made enough money" are two separate questions.
I can tell you right now I do not have any problem with people writing books to make $$$$$$$$. I hope you can also tell me whether you have a problem with people writing books to make $$$$$$$$.
wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 01:24 last edited by George K@Axtremus said in Number Three:
I hope you can also tell me whether you have a problem with people writing books to make $$$$$$$$.
Of course I don't.
Since candidate Obama declared that there is a point at which one has made "enough money," I'm simply asking where that point is.
Do you have an opinion?
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@Axtremus said in Number Three:
I hope you can also tell me whether you have a problem with people writing books to make $$$$$$$$.
Of course I don't.
Since candidate Obama declared that there is a point at which one has made "enough money," I'm simply asking where that point is.
Do you have an opinion?
wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 01:44 last edited by@George-K said in Number Three:
Since candidate Obama declared that there is a point at which one has made "enough money," I'm simply asking where that point is.
Do you have an opinion?
To benefit only oneself, I say that that is when one has just enough to let one lives out one's natural life at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow men.
To benefit one's fellow men, I say that that is when one has just enough to raise the standards of living of one's fellow men by the amount to which one aspires.
What's your opinion for that same question?
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@George-K said in Number Three:
Since candidate Obama declared that there is a point at which one has made "enough money," I'm simply asking where that point is.
Do you have an opinion?
To benefit only oneself, I say that that is when one has just enough to let one lives out one's natural life at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow men.
To benefit one's fellow men, I say that that is when one has just enough to raise the standards of living of one's fellow men by the amount to which one aspires.
What's your opinion for that same question?
wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 01:57 last edited by@Axtremus said in Number Three:
one has just enough to let one lives out one's natural life at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow men.
On Martha's Vineyard on a $12M home.
Okay, then.
By what order of magnitude do you estimate BHO has exceeded that?
Should he donate the excess to charity? To reduce the national debt? To give it to you?
How about me?
I'll take it!
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@Axtremus said in Number Three:
one has just enough to let one lives out one's natural life at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow men.
On Martha's Vineyard on a $12M home.
Okay, then.
By what order of magnitude do you estimate BHO has exceeded that?
Should he donate the excess to charity? To reduce the national debt? To give it to you?
How about me?
I'll take it!
wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 02:04 last edited by@George-K said in Number Three:
@Axtremus said in Number Three:
one has just enough to let one lives out one's natural life at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow men.
By what order of magnitude do you estimate BHO has exceeded that?
You neglected the second part of my answer about making money to benefit one's fellow men. Have you established that BHO is making all this money just for himself? Do you know he will not be donating profits from his books to charitable foundations?
Still, let's see if you have an opinion on the question of at what point one has made enough money.
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@George-K said in Number Three:
@Axtremus said in Number Three:
one has just enough to let one lives out one's natural life at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow men.
By what order of magnitude do you estimate BHO has exceeded that?
You neglected the second part of my answer about making money to benefit one's fellow men. Have you established that BHO is making all this money just for himself? Do you know he will not be donating profits from his books to charitable foundations?
Still, let's see if you have an opinion on the question of at what point one has made enough money.
wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 02:12 last edited by@Axtremus said in Number Three:
Have you established that BHO is making all this money just for himself?
Nope. I'll let you do that.
Let's see BHO sell his Martha's Vineyard house and move to Austin in Chicago.
Hell, let's see him move to Evanston or Hinsdale.
When he does that, I'll give your comment some (moderately) serious consideration. Until that time, you're just blowing smoke.
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@George-K said in Number Three:
@Axtremus said in Number Three:
one has just enough to let one lives out one's natural life at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow men.
By what order of magnitude do you estimate BHO has exceeded that?
You neglected the second part of my answer about making money to benefit one's fellow men. Have you established that BHO is making all this money just for himself? Do you know he will not be donating profits from his books to charitable foundations?
Still, let's see if you have an opinion on the question of at what point one has made enough money.
wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 02:14 last edited by@Axtremus said in Number Three:
let's see if you have an opinion on the question of at what point one has made enough money.
I asked the question because Obama made the statement. You're one of his supporters.
What is that point?
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@Axtremus said in Number Three:
let's see if you have an opinion on the question of at what point one has made enough money.
I asked the question because Obama made the statement. You're one of his supporters.
What is that point?
wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 02:17 last edited by@George-K said in Number Three:
@Axtremus said in Number Three:
let's see if you have an opinion on the question of at what point one has made enough money.
I asked the question because Obama made the statement. You're one of his supporters.
What is that point?
Ah, I see, you personally do not think BHO was right with that statement, that you do not think there is a point when one has made enough money. That's fine.
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@George-K said in Number Three:
@Axtremus said in Number Three:
let's see if you have an opinion on the question of at what point one has made enough money.
I asked the question because Obama made the statement. You're one of his supporters.
What is that point?
Ah, I see, you personally do not think BHO was right with that statement, that you do not think there is a point when one has made enough money. That's fine.
wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 02:18 last edited by@Axtremus said in Number Three:
I see, you personally do not think BHO was right with that statement, that you do not think there is a point when one has made enough money. That's fine.
That's right.
So, was Obama lying then?
If not, what is that point?
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@Axtremus said in Number Three:
Have you established that BHO is making all this money just for himself?
Nope. I'll let you do that.
Let's see BHO sell his Martha's Vineyard house and move to Austin in Chicago.
Hell, let's see him move to Evanston or Hinsdale.
When he does that, I'll give your comment some (moderately) serious consideration. Until that time, you're just blowing smoke.
wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 02:21 last edited by@George-K said in Number Three:
@Axtremus said in Number Three:
Have you established that BHO is making all this money just for himself?
Nope. I'll let you do that.
Let's see BHO sell his Martha's Vineyard house and move to Austin in Chicago.
Hell, let's see him move to Evanston or Hinsdale.
When he does that, I'll give your comment some (moderately) serious consideration. Until that time, you're just blowing smoke.
It's alright, given Obama's track records on charitable givings to date, so far I am quite comfortable with how Obama handles the wealth under his control vis a vis his contributions to benefit his fellow men.
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@George-K said in Number Three:
@Axtremus said in Number Three:
Have you established that BHO is making all this money just for himself?
Nope. I'll let you do that.
Let's see BHO sell his Martha's Vineyard house and move to Austin in Chicago.
Hell, let's see him move to Evanston or Hinsdale.
When he does that, I'll give your comment some (moderately) serious consideration. Until that time, you're just blowing smoke.
It's alright, given Obama's track records on charitable givings to date, so far I am quite comfortable with how Obama handles the wealth under his control vis a vis his contributions to benefit his fellow men.
wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 02:25 last edited by@Axtremus said in Number Three:
It's alright, given Obama's track records on charitable givings to date, so far I am quite comfortable with how Obama handles the wealth under his control vis a vis his contributions to benefit his fellow men.
That's not what you said.
At all.
You implied that one should not aspire to more than other people earn.
To benefit only oneself, I say that that is when one has just enough to let one lives out one's natural life at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow men.
Do you really think that BHO should have just enough to live his life out at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow man?
C'mon, man! Don't be a chump!
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@Axtremus said in Number Three:
It's alright, given Obama's track records on charitable givings to date, so far I am quite comfortable with how Obama handles the wealth under his control vis a vis his contributions to benefit his fellow men.
That's not what you said.
At all.
You implied that one should not aspire to more than other people earn.
To benefit only oneself, I say that that is when one has just enough to let one lives out one's natural life at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow men.
Do you really think that BHO should have just enough to live his life out at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow man?
C'mon, man! Don't be a chump!
wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 02:48 last edited by@George-K said in Number Three:
@Axtremus said in Number Three:
It's alright, given Obama's track records on charitable givings to date, so far I am quite comfortable with how Obama handles the wealth under his control vis a vis his contributions to benefit his fellow men.
That's not what you said.
At all.
You implied that one should not aspire to more than other people earn.
To benefit only oneself, I say that that is when one has just enough to let one lives out one's natural life at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow men.
You're still missing the second part of what I wrote: "To benefit one's fellow men, I say that that is when one has just enough to raise the standards of living of one's fellow men by the amount to which one aspires."
Philosophically, I am quite OK with accumulating more capital than is enough for oneself when the intention is to then deploy such 'excess' capital to benefit one's fellow men.
Do you really think that BHO should have just enough to live his life out at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow man?
I'm optimistic that BHO has big plans, that within his lifetime, will give away or otherwise deploy much of his accumulated wealth to benefit his fellow men and, in the process, brings his remaining wealth kept for his own benefit closer to the standard I laid out. Why do I have this optimism? Based on Obama's track record at charitable giving to date, that's why.
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@George-K said in Number Three:
@Axtremus said in Number Three:
It's alright, given Obama's track records on charitable givings to date, so far I am quite comfortable with how Obama handles the wealth under his control vis a vis his contributions to benefit his fellow men.
That's not what you said.
At all.
You implied that one should not aspire to more than other people earn.
To benefit only oneself, I say that that is when one has just enough to let one lives out one's natural life at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow men.
You're still missing the second part of what I wrote: "To benefit one's fellow men, I say that that is when one has just enough to raise the standards of living of one's fellow men by the amount to which one aspires."
Philosophically, I am quite OK with accumulating more capital than is enough for oneself when the intention is to then deploy such 'excess' capital to benefit one's fellow men.
Do you really think that BHO should have just enough to live his life out at the standard of living that reflects the median of fellow man?
I'm optimistic that BHO has big plans, that within his lifetime, will give away or otherwise deploy much of his accumulated wealth to benefit his fellow men and, in the process, brings his remaining wealth kept for his own benefit closer to the standard I laid out. Why do I have this optimism? Based on Obama's track record at charitable giving to date, that's why.
wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 03:10 last edited by@Axtremus said in Number Three:
"To benefit one's fellow men, I say that that is when one has just enough to raise the standards of living of one's fellow men by the amount to which one aspires."
I'll wait to see how BHO achieves that goal.
Fortunately, he released his tax returns while POTUS (but not, afaik, since then).
Is his taxable income in line with that of his "fellow man?" Somehow, I doubt it.
I'm happy to admit that I'm wrong on this point, but I don't think I will be.
When millionaires and billionaires (all 500 of them) decrease their income to be in line with their "fellow man," I'll take your comments seriously. In the meantime, I'll pour myself another glass of (cheap) Scotch. Cheap, because I'm retired, and I don't make nearly as much money as Obama.
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wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 03:38 last edited by
I don't know why anybody cares. If you don't like the fact that Obama's written a book, there's an easy solution - don't buy it.
I tried reading Bush's book. It was shit, but nobody complained about him writing it. People actually buy his paintings, for crying out loud.
He's an ex president. It doesn't matter what he does.
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I don't know why anybody cares. If you don't like the fact that Obama's written a book, there's an easy solution - don't buy it.
I tried reading Bush's book. It was shit, but nobody complained about him writing it. People actually buy his paintings, for crying out loud.
He's an ex president. It doesn't matter what he does.
wrote on 15 Nov 2020, 12:25 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Number Three:
I don't know why anybody cares. If you don't like the fact that Obama's written a book, there's an easy solution - don't buy it.
I tried reading Bush's book. It was shit, but nobody complained about him writing it. People actually buy his paintings, for crying out loud.
He's an ex president. It doesn't matter what he does.
Nobody complained?
