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    Aqua Letifer
    wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 17:39 last edited by
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    • My old boss quit today with no notice.
    • The EA I mentioned earlier, the one who's been there for 15 years and is in charge of about a dozen different annual initiatives? Who tried to help fix things? She's getting let go. An email announcement about it was sent to staff last night at 11:38. In the next day's meeting, when senior managers were asking who's now going to be in charge of these programs, the CEO snapped and said, "I don't want to hear any more questions about this."
    • Two VPs are actively trying to leave. And sure as you're born, their staff will leave with them.
    • There's a board meeting next week. A third of the staff, without a ringleader responsible, got together to write an open letter to the board addressing the issues that they're dealing with.
    • A third of the entire organization is actively looking to leave. Not "I'm complaining about my job," they're sending out applications and having discussions with their spouses about next steps.

    Shit. Show.

    Please love yourself.

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      Loki
      wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 17:42 last edited by
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      If this wasn’t contemplated and even planned on some level it has to be something I have not seen in modern times. I mean so far I am thinking there has to be more to the story.

      To be clear I am not doubting you Aqua, it’s just beyond comprehension.

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        mark
        wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 17:43 last edited by
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        Wow. It truly is a shit show.

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        • L Loki
          11 Nov 2020, 17:42

          If this wasn’t contemplated and even planned on some level it has to be something I have not seen in modern times. I mean so far I am thinking there has to be more to the story.

          To be clear I am not doubting you Aqua, it’s just beyond comprehension.

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 17:45 last edited by
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          @Loki said in Work update.:

          If this wasn’t contemplated and even planned on some level it has to be something I have not seen in modern times. I mean so far I am thinking there has to be more to the story.

          To be clear I am not doubting you Aqua, it’s just beyond comprehension.

          There's more to the story alright, but it's just garden variety stupidity. No big secret at all. But for very complicated reasons it was reasonable to hire someone to run the place who has absolutely no idea how to run anything. From their perspective, how they went about it made sense enough.

          Please love yourself.

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            George K
            wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 17:50 last edited by
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            Wow. Just amazing.

            A THIRD of the staff?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 17:52 last edited by
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              How many people work there?

              I was only joking

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              • G George K
                11 Nov 2020, 17:50

                Wow. Just amazing.

                A THIRD of the staff?

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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 18:01 last edited by
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                @George-K said in Work update.:

                Wow. Just amazing.

                A THIRD of the staff?

                A third of them, who have set up several Skype calls to draft the letter, and fully understand the risks involved in doing what they're planning on doing. The board doesn't know any of them from Adam.

                Please love yourself.

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 18:01 last edited by
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                  I've seen it before. It happens when competent people are hired and then ignored by incompetent management.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • M Mik
                    11 Nov 2020, 18:01

                    I've seen it before. It happens when competent people are hired and then ignored by incompetent management.

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 18:06 last edited by
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                    @Mik said in Work update.:

                    I've seen it before. It happens when competent people are hired and then ignored by incompetent management.

                    I'm so done. I'm spending a good, long time away from Game A employment. I look at job applications and immediately feel sick to my stomach. Literally I feel sick. I'm going to give ad-hoc work a go for awhile. I've done it before, I have no idea why I stopped. The false promise of more security I think.

                    Man, was that ever a stupid decision.

                    Please love yourself.

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 18:33 last edited by
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                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Work update.:

                      Game A employment

                      What does "Game A employment" mean in this context?
                      Don't think I have come across this terminology before.

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                      • A Aqua Letifer
                        11 Nov 2020, 18:06

                        @Mik said in Work update.:

                        I've seen it before. It happens when competent people are hired and then ignored by incompetent management.

                        I'm so done. I'm spending a good, long time away from Game A employment. I look at job applications and immediately feel sick to my stomach. Literally I feel sick. I'm going to give ad-hoc work a go for awhile. I've done it before, I have no idea why I stopped. The false promise of more security I think.

                        Man, was that ever a stupid decision.

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 18:44 last edited by
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                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Work update.:

                        @Mik said in Work update.:

                        I've seen it before. It happens when competent people are hired and then ignored by incompetent management.

                        I'm so done. I'm spending a good, long time away from Game A employment. I look at job applications and immediately feel sick to my stomach. Literally I feel sick. I'm going to give ad-hoc work a go for awhile. I've done it before, I have no idea why I stopped. The false promise of more security I think.

                        Man, was that ever a stupid decision.

                        Not necessarily. You might just need to be more particular, ask deeper questions and get a little lucky. That said, I always enjoyed working ad hoc, but MFR provided the insurance etc. so I had that luxury.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • A Axtremus
                          11 Nov 2020, 18:33

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Work update.:

                          Game A employment

                          What does "Game A employment" mean in this context?
                          Don't think I have come across this terminology before.

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                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 18:56 last edited by
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                          @Axtremus said in Work update.:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Work update.:

                          Game A employment

                          What does "Game A employment" mean in this context?
                          Don't think I have come across this terminology before.

                          Working for the sole purpose of earning a living, basically. Today, there are many ways you can go about that, so choice is something more people should consider but don't.

                          Please love yourself.

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 19:10 last edited by
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                            The immigrants consider it more than the inhabitants, strangely and interestingly.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • HoraceH Horace
                              11 Nov 2020, 19:10

                              The immigrants consider it more than the inhabitants, strangely and interestingly.

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                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 19:13 last edited by
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                              @Horace said in Work update.:

                              The immigrants consider it more than the inhabitants, strangely and interestingly.

                              Yeah. I blame a holdover from boomer attitudes, but only because that's where I kept hearing it from. I don't know whether that's representative.

                              Please love yourself.

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                                11 Nov 2020, 19:10

                                The immigrants consider it more than the inhabitants, strangely and interestingly.

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                                xenon
                                wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 19:47 last edited by xenon 11 Nov 2020, 19:48
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                                @Horace In many developing countries the link between hard work and money is broken.

                                So - just having a functioning economy where you can get paid for work is so so so so much more security than they're used to. Defined hours and a consistent paycheck can feel like a relatively incremental thing on top of that.

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                                  kluurs
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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 20:34 last edited by
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                                    What other reason is there to work than to earn a living?

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • X xenon
                                      11 Nov 2020, 19:47

                                      @Horace In many developing countries the link between hard work and money is broken.

                                      So - just having a functioning economy where you can get paid for work is so so so so much more security than they're used to. Defined hours and a consistent paycheck can feel like a relatively incremental thing on top of that.

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                                      Aqua Letifer
                                      wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 20:37 last edited by
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                                      @xenon said in Work update.:

                                      @Horace In many developing countries the link between hard work and money is broken.

                                      It can be considered the exact same here, depending on your point of view. It was one of Howard Zinn's favorite arguments: work hard in America and get ahead. But for dishwashers, house cleaners, etc., it's "work your ass off and stay there."

                                      Yeah, I know. Market forces. And I agree that at least the market gives you options. But capitalism ain't no meritocracy, either, when comparing across industries. It's closer to that on a company level but even so, quite obviously there are dysfunctions.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                        11 Nov 2020, 20:34

                                        What other reason is there to work than to earn a living?

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                                        Aqua Letifer
                                        wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 20:39 last edited by
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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Work update.:

                                        What other reason is there to work than to earn a living?

                                        Other way around. It's not that there are other reasons to work, it's that there are many, many more ways to earn a living, thanks to the internet and its distribution model.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 11 Nov 2020, 20:40 last edited by
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                                          It's a shame you're white, you could have went to work for the government...

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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