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  • MikM Away
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    Mik
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    I've seen it before. It happens when competent people are hired and then ignored by incompetent management.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Mik

      I've seen it before. It happens when competent people are hired and then ignored by incompetent management.

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      Aqua Letifer
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      @Mik said in Work update.:

      I've seen it before. It happens when competent people are hired and then ignored by incompetent management.

      I'm so done. I'm spending a good, long time away from Game A employment. I look at job applications and immediately feel sick to my stomach. Literally I feel sick. I'm going to give ad-hoc work a go for awhile. I've done it before, I have no idea why I stopped. The false promise of more security I think.

      Man, was that ever a stupid decision.

      Please love yourself.

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        @Aqua-Letifer said in Work update.:

        Game A employment

        What does "Game A employment" mean in this context?
        Don't think I have come across this terminology before.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @Mik said in Work update.:

          I've seen it before. It happens when competent people are hired and then ignored by incompetent management.

          I'm so done. I'm spending a good, long time away from Game A employment. I look at job applications and immediately feel sick to my stomach. Literally I feel sick. I'm going to give ad-hoc work a go for awhile. I've done it before, I have no idea why I stopped. The false promise of more security I think.

          Man, was that ever a stupid decision.

          MikM Away
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          Mik
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          @Aqua-Letifer said in Work update.:

          @Mik said in Work update.:

          I've seen it before. It happens when competent people are hired and then ignored by incompetent management.

          I'm so done. I'm spending a good, long time away from Game A employment. I look at job applications and immediately feel sick to my stomach. Literally I feel sick. I'm going to give ad-hoc work a go for awhile. I've done it before, I have no idea why I stopped. The false promise of more security I think.

          Man, was that ever a stupid decision.

          Not necessarily. You might just need to be more particular, ask deeper questions and get a little lucky. That said, I always enjoyed working ad hoc, but MFR provided the insurance etc. so I had that luxury.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Work update.:

            Game A employment

            What does "Game A employment" mean in this context?
            Don't think I have come across this terminology before.

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            Aqua Letifer
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            #12

            @Axtremus said in Work update.:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Work update.:

            Game A employment

            What does "Game A employment" mean in this context?
            Don't think I have come across this terminology before.

            Working for the sole purpose of earning a living, basically. Today, there are many ways you can go about that, so choice is something more people should consider but don't.

            Please love yourself.

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              The immigrants consider it more than the inhabitants, strangely and interestingly.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                The immigrants consider it more than the inhabitants, strangely and interestingly.

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                @Horace said in Work update.:

                The immigrants consider it more than the inhabitants, strangely and interestingly.

                Yeah. I blame a holdover from boomer attitudes, but only because that's where I kept hearing it from. I don't know whether that's representative.

                Please love yourself.

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  The immigrants consider it more than the inhabitants, strangely and interestingly.

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                  xenon
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                  @Horace In many developing countries the link between hard work and money is broken.

                  So - just having a functioning economy where you can get paid for work is so so so so much more security than they're used to. Defined hours and a consistent paycheck can feel like a relatively incremental thing on top of that.

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                      What other reason is there to work than to earn a living?

                      I was only joking

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                      • X xenon

                        @Horace In many developing countries the link between hard work and money is broken.

                        So - just having a functioning economy where you can get paid for work is so so so so much more security than they're used to. Defined hours and a consistent paycheck can feel like a relatively incremental thing on top of that.

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                        Aqua Letifer
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                        @xenon said in Work update.:

                        @Horace In many developing countries the link between hard work and money is broken.

                        It can be considered the exact same here, depending on your point of view. It was one of Howard Zinn's favorite arguments: work hard in America and get ahead. But for dishwashers, house cleaners, etc., it's "work your ass off and stay there."

                        Yeah, I know. Market forces. And I agree that at least the market gives you options. But capitalism ain't no meritocracy, either, when comparing across industries. It's closer to that on a company level but even so, quite obviously there are dysfunctions.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          What other reason is there to work than to earn a living?

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                          Aqua Letifer
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                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Work update.:

                          What other reason is there to work than to earn a living?

                          Other way around. It's not that there are other reasons to work, it's that there are many, many more ways to earn a living, thanks to the internet and its distribution model.

                          Please love yourself.

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                            It's a shame you're white, you could have went to work for the government...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              I should have been a bit more clear. My point was the link between willingness to work and any money.

                              Like - Mexicans come up across the border and wait around uhaul stores to try to get odd jobs helping people move.

                              That’s an improvement for them.

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                                xenon
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                                Personally I knew some folks for whom moving to Canada, getting a minimum wage job and taking up in a shithole apartment with a couple of other people was a literal dream come true.

                                The fact that these people are willing to be more entrepreneurial is not a surprise.

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  It's a shame you're white, you could have went to work for the government...

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                                  @Jolly said in Work update.:

                                  It's a shame you're white, you could have went to work for the government...

                                  I've done that, actually. Twice.

                                  I'd rather work at Starbucks. Far more competent co-workers, far more job satisfaction, far less time wasted.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                    @Jolly said in Work update.:

                                    It's a shame you're white, you could have went to work for the government...

                                    I've done that, actually. Twice.

                                    I'd rather work at Starbucks. Far more competent co-workers, far more job satisfaction, far less time wasted.

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                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Work update.:

                                    @Jolly said in Work update.:

                                    It's a shame you're white, you could have went to work for the government...

                                    I've done that, actually. Twice.

                                    I'd rather work at Starbucks. Far more competent co-workers, far more job satisfaction, far less time wasted.

                                    A married man is a hostage to fortune.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • X xenon

                                      Personally I knew some folks for whom moving to Canada, getting a minimum wage job and taking up in a shithole apartment with a couple of other people was a literal dream come true.

                                      The fact that these people are willing to be more entrepreneurial is not a surprise.

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                                      Aqua Letifer
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                                      @xenon said in Work update.:

                                      The fact that these people are willing to be more entrepreneurial is not a surprise.

                                      Not at all. And they have the right mindset, definitely.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Work update.:

                                        @Jolly said in Work update.:

                                        It's a shame you're white, you could have went to work for the government...

                                        I've done that, actually. Twice.

                                        I'd rather work at Starbucks. Far more competent co-workers, far more job satisfaction, far less time wasted.

                                        A married man is a hostage to fortune.

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                                        @Jolly said in Work update.:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Work update.:

                                        @Jolly said in Work update.:

                                        It's a shame you're white, you could have went to work for the government...

                                        I've done that, actually. Twice.

                                        I'd rather work at Starbucks. Far more competent co-workers, far more job satisfaction, far less time wasted.

                                        A married man is a hostage to fortune.

                                        I feel attacked

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Work update.:

                                          @Jolly said in Work update.:

                                          It's a shame you're white, you could have went to work for the government...

                                          I've done that, actually. Twice.

                                          I'd rather work at Starbucks. Far more competent co-workers, far more job satisfaction, far less time wasted.

                                          A married man is a hostage to fortune.

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                                          Aqua Letifer
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                                          @Jolly said in Work update.:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Work update.:

                                          @Jolly said in Work update.:

                                          It's a shame you're white, you could have went to work for the government...

                                          I've done that, actually. Twice.

                                          I'd rather work at Starbucks. Far more competent co-workers, far more job satisfaction, far less time wasted.

                                          A married man is a hostage to fortune.

                                          Families make cowards out of men the world over. 😁

                                          I absolutely made the right move getting out of there, though. I don't know what happens next but the promise of job security was putting many other things at risk. (My health, just for starters. I was squarely in stage I hypertension while working there, working up to stage II. About 10 days out and I'm down to an average of 125/85.)

                                          Please love yourself.

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