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  • markM Offline
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    Wow. It truly is a shit show.

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    • L Loki

      If this wasn’t contemplated and even planned on some level it has to be something I have not seen in modern times. I mean so far I am thinking there has to be more to the story.

      To be clear I am not doubting you Aqua, it’s just beyond comprehension.

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      @Loki said in Work update.:

      If this wasn’t contemplated and even planned on some level it has to be something I have not seen in modern times. I mean so far I am thinking there has to be more to the story.

      To be clear I am not doubting you Aqua, it’s just beyond comprehension.

      There's more to the story alright, but it's just garden variety stupidity. No big secret at all. But for very complicated reasons it was reasonable to hire someone to run the place who has absolutely no idea how to run anything. From their perspective, how they went about it made sense enough.

      Please love yourself.

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        Wow. Just amazing.

        A THIRD of the staff?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          How many people work there?

          I was only joking

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          • George KG George K

            Wow. Just amazing.

            A THIRD of the staff?

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            @George-K said in Work update.:

            Wow. Just amazing.

            A THIRD of the staff?

            A third of them, who have set up several Skype calls to draft the letter, and fully understand the risks involved in doing what they're planning on doing. The board doesn't know any of them from Adam.

            Please love yourself.

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            • MikM Away
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              I've seen it before. It happens when competent people are hired and then ignored by incompetent management.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • MikM Mik

                I've seen it before. It happens when competent people are hired and then ignored by incompetent management.

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                @Mik said in Work update.:

                I've seen it before. It happens when competent people are hired and then ignored by incompetent management.

                I'm so done. I'm spending a good, long time away from Game A employment. I look at job applications and immediately feel sick to my stomach. Literally I feel sick. I'm going to give ad-hoc work a go for awhile. I've done it before, I have no idea why I stopped. The false promise of more security I think.

                Man, was that ever a stupid decision.

                Please love yourself.

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                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Work update.:

                  Game A employment

                  What does "Game A employment" mean in this context?
                  Don't think I have come across this terminology before.

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    @Mik said in Work update.:

                    I've seen it before. It happens when competent people are hired and then ignored by incompetent management.

                    I'm so done. I'm spending a good, long time away from Game A employment. I look at job applications and immediately feel sick to my stomach. Literally I feel sick. I'm going to give ad-hoc work a go for awhile. I've done it before, I have no idea why I stopped. The false promise of more security I think.

                    Man, was that ever a stupid decision.

                    MikM Away
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                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Work update.:

                    @Mik said in Work update.:

                    I've seen it before. It happens when competent people are hired and then ignored by incompetent management.

                    I'm so done. I'm spending a good, long time away from Game A employment. I look at job applications and immediately feel sick to my stomach. Literally I feel sick. I'm going to give ad-hoc work a go for awhile. I've done it before, I have no idea why I stopped. The false promise of more security I think.

                    Man, was that ever a stupid decision.

                    Not necessarily. You might just need to be more particular, ask deeper questions and get a little lucky. That said, I always enjoyed working ad hoc, but MFR provided the insurance etc. so I had that luxury.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Work update.:

                      Game A employment

                      What does "Game A employment" mean in this context?
                      Don't think I have come across this terminology before.

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                      @Axtremus said in Work update.:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Work update.:

                      Game A employment

                      What does "Game A employment" mean in this context?
                      Don't think I have come across this terminology before.

                      Working for the sole purpose of earning a living, basically. Today, there are many ways you can go about that, so choice is something more people should consider but don't.

                      Please love yourself.

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                        The immigrants consider it more than the inhabitants, strangely and interestingly.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          The immigrants consider it more than the inhabitants, strangely and interestingly.

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                          @Horace said in Work update.:

                          The immigrants consider it more than the inhabitants, strangely and interestingly.

                          Yeah. I blame a holdover from boomer attitudes, but only because that's where I kept hearing it from. I don't know whether that's representative.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            The immigrants consider it more than the inhabitants, strangely and interestingly.

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                            @Horace In many developing countries the link between hard work and money is broken.

                            So - just having a functioning economy where you can get paid for work is so so so so much more security than they're used to. Defined hours and a consistent paycheck can feel like a relatively incremental thing on top of that.

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                                What other reason is there to work than to earn a living?

                                I was only joking

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                                  @Horace In many developing countries the link between hard work and money is broken.

                                  So - just having a functioning economy where you can get paid for work is so so so so much more security than they're used to. Defined hours and a consistent paycheck can feel like a relatively incremental thing on top of that.

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                                  @xenon said in Work update.:

                                  @Horace In many developing countries the link between hard work and money is broken.

                                  It can be considered the exact same here, depending on your point of view. It was one of Howard Zinn's favorite arguments: work hard in America and get ahead. But for dishwashers, house cleaners, etc., it's "work your ass off and stay there."

                                  Yeah, I know. Market forces. And I agree that at least the market gives you options. But capitalism ain't no meritocracy, either, when comparing across industries. It's closer to that on a company level but even so, quite obviously there are dysfunctions.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    What other reason is there to work than to earn a living?

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                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Work update.:

                                    What other reason is there to work than to earn a living?

                                    Other way around. It's not that there are other reasons to work, it's that there are many, many more ways to earn a living, thanks to the internet and its distribution model.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                      It's a shame you're white, you could have went to work for the government...

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        I should have been a bit more clear. My point was the link between willingness to work and any money.

                                        Like - Mexicans come up across the border and wait around uhaul stores to try to get odd jobs helping people move.

                                        That’s an improvement for them.

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                                          Personally I knew some folks for whom moving to Canada, getting a minimum wage job and taking up in a shithole apartment with a couple of other people was a literal dream come true.

                                          The fact that these people are willing to be more entrepreneurial is not a surprise.

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