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Pfizer FTW

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  • bachophileB Offline
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    bachophile
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    #20

    Agree with TG

    Conspiracy theories are all a product of cognitive dissonance.

    You need to twist reality to meet your expectations, otherwise the world doesn’t sense.

    As if this announcement would have changed anything. People decided who to vote for weeks ago. This was not an election where undecideds where swayed one way or another. It was all binary.

    anyway I hope mass vaccinations are a matter of months. Not years.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #21

      I disagree. About 4-5% tends to break in the last 7-10 days.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        bachophile
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        #22

        Breaking news-zoom down 20% in the stock market

        https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/zoom-video-stock-price-pfizer-coronavirus-vaccine-success-telework-zm-2020-11-1029781479

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
          wrote on last edited by Mik
          #23

          Always winners and losers. But I wonder if video conferencing has improved as a result. I’m very interested in this because my MIL is becoming increasingly unable to handle her phone.

          I’m wondering if there is a way we can set up kind of an open video line in her apartment that she would not have to manage.

          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #24

            I'm not sure a lot of companies didn't realize they don't need huge buildings for their employees.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Loki
              wrote on last edited by Loki
              #25

              People are not going to take the vaccine. Another bunch of bullshit the media told us. LOL

              They’ll be screaming for it.

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by Jolly
                #26

                If I was Trump, I'd supercede this bullshit and try to have the first people vaccinated before leaving office.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  xenon
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #27

                  Anyone know what the real bottlenecks are from this point forward?

                  It feels like we have unlimited financial resources to throw at this. (Relative to how big bailouts have been)

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #28

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      @Jolly said in Pfizer FTW:

                      Why noy, if it is a possible Truth?

                      It gets back to the article you posted the other day about making accusations without evidence.

                      I probably am one of the more anti conspiracy people here. Just don’t believe in them.

                      It is like the German guy in the World War 2. If you keep repeating a lie long enough, people will start to believe it.

                      LarryL Offline
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                      #29

                      @taiwan_girl said in Pfizer FTW:

                      @Jolly said in Pfizer FTW:

                      Why noy, if it is a possible Truth?

                      It gets back to the article you posted the other day about making accusations without evidence.

                      I probably am one of the more anti conspiracy people here. Just don’t believe in them.

                      It is like the German guy in the World War 2. If you keep repeating a lie long enough, people will start to believe it.

                      You sure bought the "RUSSIA!RUSSIA!! RUSSIA" conspiracy hook line And sinker.

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                      • X xenon

                        Anyone know what the real bottlenecks are from this point forward?

                        It feels like we have unlimited financial resources to throw at this. (Relative to how big bailouts have been)

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                        Loki
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #30

                        @xenon said in Pfizer FTW:

                        Anyone know what the real bottlenecks are from this point forward?

                        It feels like we have unlimited financial resources to throw at this. (Relative to how big bailouts have been)

                        Here again, suddenly how much stimulus to give changes again. Amazing how the truth of everything is suddenly spilling out.

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          I'm not sure a lot of companies didn't realize they don't need huge buildings for their employees.

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                          LuFins Dad
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                          #31

                          @Jolly said in Pfizer FTW:

                          I'm not sure a lot of companies didn't realize they don't need huge buildings for their employees.

                          Oh, they will... But in the meantime, they still have time left on their lease. May as well get the poor bastards back into the office until then...

                          The Brad

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                          • MikM Offline
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                            #32

                            Until the vaccine has been widely distributed a lot of people will refuse and it won’t be difficult to muster a significant enough number to make them back down.

                            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                              @xenon said in Pfizer FTW:

                              Anyone know what the real bottlenecks are from this point forward?

                              It feels like we have unlimited financial resources to throw at this. (Relative to how big bailouts have been)

                              Here again, suddenly how much stimulus to give changes again. Amazing how the truth of everything is suddenly spilling out.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by Jolly
                              #33

                              @Loki said in Pfizer FTW:

                              @xenon said in Pfizer FTW:

                              Anyone know what the real bottlenecks are from this point forward?

                              It feels like we have unlimited financial resources to throw at this. (Relative to how big bailouts have been)

                              Here again, suddenly how much stimulus to give changes again. Amazing how the truth of everything is suddenly spilling out.

                              Has the media been complicit? Or just so busy covering the camoaign, they ignored other news?

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • George KG George K

                                JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #34

                                @George-K said in Pfizer FTW:

                                Is he an idiot?

                                I thought he had more sense than that?

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  Copper
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                                  #35

                                  Yes
                                  No

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    @George-K said in Pfizer FTW:

                                    Is he an idiot?

                                    I thought he had more sense than that?

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                                    Loki
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #36

                                    @Jolly said in Pfizer FTW:

                                    @George-K said in Pfizer FTW:

                                    Is he an idiot?

                                    I thought he had more sense than that?

                                    Oh Cuomo gets it. They just lost credit for solving Covid and economic rebound. And the senate will be GOP. Need to scramble to get a new agenda. God I can’t believe it spilled out like that, He must be getting old.

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      @Loki said in Pfizer FTW:

                                      @xenon said in Pfizer FTW:

                                      Anyone know what the real bottlenecks are from this point forward?

                                      It feels like we have unlimited financial resources to throw at this. (Relative to how big bailouts have been)

                                      Here again, suddenly how much stimulus to give changes again. Amazing how the truth of everything is suddenly spilling out.

                                      Has the media been complicit? Or just so busy covering the camoaign, they ignored other news?

                                      MikM Offline
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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #37

                                      @Jolly said in Pfizer FTW:

                                      @Loki said in Pfizer FTW:

                                      @xenon said in Pfizer FTW:

                                      Anyone know what the real bottlenecks are from this point forward?

                                      It feels like we have unlimited financial resources to throw at this. (Relative to how big bailouts have been)

                                      Here again, suddenly how much stimulus to give changes again. Amazing how the truth of everything is suddenly spilling out.

                                      Has the media been complicit? Or just so busy covering the camoaign, they ignored other news?

                                      Not buying that. You don't just miss a story like that.

                                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                      • MikM Offline
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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on last edited by Mik
                                        #38

                                        Cuomo is just flat wrong. The government does not have any infrastructure to distribute and administer the vaccine. To try to set that up would take months, by which time we could be well on the way to a vaccinated population.

                                        The private sector does have that infrastructure, however imperfect. We see it every year in flu shots. as far as 'healthcare deserts', that can be dealt with. But a large part of teh problem there is not accessibility but awareness and willingness.

                                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          #39

                                          Kind of disingenuous to change “fix it or stop” to just “stop it”.

                                          I don’t know enough about the plan to comment. It is certainly true that no existing pharamacies and few if any hospitals have the infrastructure to store a vaccine at -91C. I’m not sure how the current plan deals with this problem. I also think managing the follow up shot is likely to be poorly implemented by the pharmacies, but I have trouble imagining the state doing it any better.

                                          But I really need to read a more technical version of the objections.

                                          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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