Trump's reaction to losing
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It's a little funny, actually. If Biden was the one having to fight right now, every damn one of you who are yanking on Trump would be behind him 100%. It's also funny how some of you insist that it's the Republican party that needs to change.
The one good thing that might actually come from all this is the DEMOCRAT party may change. And that's the party that needs to change, not the republicans. It already could be happening. The moderate democrats seem to have grown a little spine finally, and told the "progressives" that unless they stop with the Socialism talk and get more to the center they will face a blood bath in 2 years. They are correct. They seem to be fed up with Pelosi as well. Also, the "squad".
There's nothing the Republican party needs to change, as long as the don't allow the never Trumper neocons take over again. Whether you like Trump or you don't, he changed the narrative that said the democrats were the "party of the people" to the republicans being the party of the people and the democrats are now seen, rightfully so, as the party of big business.
Some of you just don't get it. It wasn't that we loved Trump personally so much, it was that we loved the things he was getting done. No one can take that away from him, they can only undo it. And if they do undo the things he accomplished, it will either be the death of America, or the death of the democrat party.
I think Biden won. I don't think he won because anyone likes him or Harris. He won because so many people hate Trump. Most of those who hate the man do so out of ignorance, and the smaller and smaller pool of people still able to tell shit from shinola. Trump's legacy may just be that he exposed enough of the corrupt government machinery that BOTH parties were a part of. Time will tell if the American public is smart enough to take advantage of it, though I don't hold out much hope for that. Between the media and the shallow thinking of many people today, most likely the establishment will drown it and we will go back to marching headlong off a cliff. Or maybe the moderate democrats will throw Pelosi and the "squad" to the dogs.
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@xenon said in Trump's reaction to losing:
@Jolly he not interesting unless he’s on the cusp or in the seat of power.
He had simple messages that connected with people from day one.
Unless you mean he’ll be starting up MAGA 2024.
I hope he does. Four years of the damage that's coming should be all it takes.
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That son of his with the beard sounds like he might want to have a go at it. The other son without the chin could be his VP.
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@Larry said in Trump's reaction to losing:
@xenon said in Trump's reaction to losing:
@Jolly he not interesting unless he’s on the cusp or in the seat of power.
He had simple messages that connected with people from day one.
Unless you mean he’ll be starting up MAGA 2024.
I hope he does. Four years of the damage that's coming should be all it takes.
If Biden does not change some already stated objectives, or if the GOP Senate cannot stop him, there is going to be major economic hemorrhaging...Take New Mexico...New Mexico has two major industries, tourism and the oil fields. The oil fields are mostly on Federal land.
Between Captain Lockdown killing the tourist industry and ending fracking in Federal land leases, New Mexico is in very bad shape.
That's one state among many...
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This may get interesting once media outlets start calling it and Biden makes a victory speech.
Interesting, in a facepalm sense.
I just don't Trump conceding here at all. He's fine making huge fraud claims with innuendo and vague accusations - nothing the courts do / say will counter that, even by inauguration day.
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@xenon said in Trump's reaction to losing:
This may get interesting once media outlets start calling it and Biden makes a victory speech.
Interesting, in a facepalm sense.
I just don't Trump conceding here at all. He's fine making huge fraud claims with innuendo and vague accusations - nothing the courts do / say will counter that, even by inauguration day.
Would you shove your Trump bashing square up your ass? FUCK, man, give it a damned rest.
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@Larry I’m not trying to bash the guy and I’m not saying voting in this country is perfect. I just hate to see a lot of people think that the process is irrevocably broken.
I don’t think it is. I think there’s probably lots of errors and even some malice across the country.
I don’t think it’s systematic, and if it is - there needs to be evidence before those sort of accusations are thrown out.
Our trust in elections is bigger than any single election.
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@Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:
It's broken. There are millions of people who no longer trust the ballot box.
You cannot put the genie back in the box.
It’s not that I don’t trust it but It reinforces my opinion that most people should vote the day of the election.
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@Loki said in Trump's reaction to losing:
@Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:
It's broken. There are millions of people who no longer trust the ballot box.
You cannot put the genie back in the box.
It’s not that I don’t trust it but It reinforces my opinion that most people should vote the day of the election.
The nation who has millions of its citizens carrying cellphones that can only be unlocked with a unique thumbprint, can't figure out how to deal with voter fraud.
That is unconscionable.
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@Jolly I don’t disagree with you, Jolly.
But I think a lot of privacy purists would disagree.
If you had a digital identifier for citizens (simple to do) - it’d be pretty easy to make a secure National digital system for multiple purposes, including voting.
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@xenon said in Trump's reaction to losing:
@Jolly I don’t disagree with you, Jolly.
But I think a lot of privacy purists would disagree.
If you had a digital identifier for citizens (simple to do) - it’d be pretty easy to make a secure National digital system for multiple purposes, including voting.
The fix is easy.
You end mail-in ballots. Voters must vote in person, except those allowed by federal law (military, etc.) to use a mail-in vote (and then you have to keep them out of the trash, as in Georgia). You can still let people vote early, as long as it is done in person, with ID and signature verification, not more than two weeks before the general election date. You have poll watchers, even at early voting. No voting or counting will be done without those watchers present.
And you make voter fraud a crime that carries very heavy penalties.
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@xenon said in Trump's reaction to losing:
@Larry I’m not trying to bash the guy and I’m not saying voting in this country is perfect. I just hate to see a lot of people think that the process is irrevocably broken.
I don’t think it is. I think there’s probably lots of errors and even some malice across the country.
I don’t think it’s systematic, and if it is - there needs to be evidence before those sort of accusations are thrown out.
Our trust in elections is bigger than any single election.
Then fucking say THAT instead of stringing together a litany of mean spirited bull shit aimed at Trump. Yes you ARE trying to bash the guy. And the process IS broken.
