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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
    #26

    Yeah but his case in PA will be mooted by the vote count and the other ones are baseless. Press releases with a filing fee.

    The recounts will finish.

    And then one day, like Covid, he'll just disappear.

    You were warned.

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      #27

      Mr. Trump might follow Ms. Clinton's advice and never concede.

      Of course that wasn't advice for Mr. Biden, it was orders, so Mr. Biden definitely will not be conceding even with unfavorable recounts.

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      • X xenon

        This may get interesting once media outlets start calling it and Biden makes a victory speech.

        Interesting, in a facepalm sense.

        I just don't Trump conceding here at all. He's fine making huge fraud claims with innuendo and vague accusations - nothing the courts do / say will counter that, even by inauguration day.

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        Larry
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        @xenon said in Trump's reaction to losing:

        This may get interesting once media outlets start calling it and Biden makes a victory speech.

        Interesting, in a facepalm sense.

        I just don't Trump conceding here at all. He's fine making huge fraud claims with innuendo and vague accusations - nothing the courts do / say will counter that, even by inauguration day.

        Would you shove your Trump bashing square up your ass? FUCK, man, give it a damned rest.

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        • LarryL Larry

          @xenon said in Trump's reaction to losing:

          This may get interesting once media outlets start calling it and Biden makes a victory speech.

          Interesting, in a facepalm sense.

          I just don't Trump conceding here at all. He's fine making huge fraud claims with innuendo and vague accusations - nothing the courts do / say will counter that, even by inauguration day.

          Would you shove your Trump bashing square up your ass? FUCK, man, give it a damned rest.

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          xenon
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          #29

          @Larry I’m not trying to bash the guy and I’m not saying voting in this country is perfect. I just hate to see a lot of people think that the process is irrevocably broken.

          I don’t think it is. I think there’s probably lots of errors and even some malice across the country.

          I don’t think it’s systematic, and if it is - there needs to be evidence before those sort of accusations are thrown out.

          Our trust in elections is bigger than any single election.

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            #30

            It's broken. There are millions of people who no longer trust the ballot box.

            You cannot put the genie back in the box.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              It's broken. There are millions of people who no longer trust the ballot box.

              You cannot put the genie back in the box.

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              Loki
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              #31

              @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

              It's broken. There are millions of people who no longer trust the ballot box.

              You cannot put the genie back in the box.

              It’s not that I don’t trust it but It reinforces my opinion that most people should vote the day of the election.

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                @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                It's broken. There are millions of people who no longer trust the ballot box.

                You cannot put the genie back in the box.

                It’s not that I don’t trust it but It reinforces my opinion that most people should vote the day of the election.

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                Jolly
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                @Loki said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                It's broken. There are millions of people who no longer trust the ballot box.

                You cannot put the genie back in the box.

                It’s not that I don’t trust it but It reinforces my opinion that most people should vote the day of the election.

                The nation who has millions of its citizens carrying cellphones that can only be unlocked with a unique thumbprint, can't figure out how to deal with voter fraud.

                That is unconscionable.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @Loki said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                  @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                  It's broken. There are millions of people who no longer trust the ballot box.

                  You cannot put the genie back in the box.

                  It’s not that I don’t trust it but It reinforces my opinion that most people should vote the day of the election.

                  The nation who has millions of its citizens carrying cellphones that can only be unlocked with a unique thumbprint, can't figure out how to deal with voter fraud.

                  That is unconscionable.

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                  #33

                  @Jolly I don’t disagree with you, Jolly.

                  But I think a lot of privacy purists would disagree.

                  If you had a digital identifier for citizens (simple to do) - it’d be pretty easy to make a secure National digital system for multiple purposes, including voting.

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    It's broken. There are millions of people who no longer trust the ballot box.

                    You cannot put the genie back in the box.

                    jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #34

                    @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                    It's broken. There are millions of people who no longer trust the ballot box.

                    You cannot put the genie back in the box.

                    As I said Perhaps Trump’s biggest legacy.

                    You were warned.

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                    • X xenon

                      @Jolly I don’t disagree with you, Jolly.

                      But I think a lot of privacy purists would disagree.

                      If you had a digital identifier for citizens (simple to do) - it’d be pretty easy to make a secure National digital system for multiple purposes, including voting.

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                      @xenon said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                      @Jolly I don’t disagree with you, Jolly.

                      But I think a lot of privacy purists would disagree.

                      If you had a digital identifier for citizens (simple to do) - it’d be pretty easy to make a secure National digital system for multiple purposes, including voting.

                      The fix is easy.

                      You end mail-in ballots. Voters must vote in person, except those allowed by federal law (military, etc.) to use a mail-in vote (and then you have to keep them out of the trash, as in Georgia). You can still let people vote early, as long as it is done in person, with ID and signature verification, not more than two weeks before the general election date. You have poll watchers, even at early voting. No voting or counting will be done without those watchers present.

                      And you make voter fraud a crime that carries very heavy penalties.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • X xenon

                        @Larry I’m not trying to bash the guy and I’m not saying voting in this country is perfect. I just hate to see a lot of people think that the process is irrevocably broken.

                        I don’t think it is. I think there’s probably lots of errors and even some malice across the country.

                        I don’t think it’s systematic, and if it is - there needs to be evidence before those sort of accusations are thrown out.

                        Our trust in elections is bigger than any single election.

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                        Larry
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                        #36

                        @xenon said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                        @Larry I’m not trying to bash the guy and I’m not saying voting in this country is perfect. I just hate to see a lot of people think that the process is irrevocably broken.

                        I don’t think it is. I think there’s probably lots of errors and even some malice across the country.

                        I don’t think it’s systematic, and if it is - there needs to be evidence before those sort of accusations are thrown out.

                        Our trust in elections is bigger than any single election.

                        Then fucking say THAT instead of stringing together a litany of mean spirited bull shit aimed at Trump. Yes you ARE trying to bash the guy. And the process IS broken.

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                          Copper
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                          #37

                          Register at least a month in advance

                          One day for voting, maybe 5 or 6 hours

                          Index finger in the purple paint

                          No write-in, no absentee

                          You don't have an index finger? No vote

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                          • JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #38

                            Nobody should be allowed to register on election day.

                            Nobody.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              #39

                              @Jolly you put a lot of emphasis on "security" but virtually none on "access".

                              Faith in the electoral system will also crumble if a large enough swath of the population cannot cast their votes.

                              The logistical challenges of running an election with 76MM voters (1932), 120MM voters (1968), 182MM voters (1988), and 239MM voters (2020) are not the same. Transit technologies and infrastructure change over time and access to transportation change over time. War, natural disasters, and pandemics will necessitate changes from time to time.

                              Want to get rid of mail-in voting? Fine, only when easy access to polling stations of sufficient vote processing capacities are available. Commit to guaranteeing that no one has to travel more than X miles to get to a polling station or wait more than Y minutes in line to cast a vote at a polling station, then we can talk about eliminating mail-in voting.

                              Otherwise, let's say we allow only in-person voting and put only one polling station in each state, logically located where the population is most dense such that it is "shortest distance" for the most people to get there in person, and see how the country/rural folks like it.

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                                Jolly
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                                #40

                                Access means nothing, if nobody trusts the results.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  @Jolly you put a lot of emphasis on "security" but virtually none on "access".

                                  Faith in the electoral system will also crumble if a large enough swath of the population cannot cast their votes.

                                  The logistical challenges of running an election with 76MM voters (1932), 120MM voters (1968), 182MM voters (1988), and 239MM voters (2020) are not the same. Transit technologies and infrastructure change over time and access to transportation change over time. War, natural disasters, and pandemics will necessitate changes from time to time.

                                  Want to get rid of mail-in voting? Fine, only when easy access to polling stations of sufficient vote processing capacities are available. Commit to guaranteeing that no one has to travel more than X miles to get to a polling station or wait more than Y minutes in line to cast a vote at a polling station, then we can talk about eliminating mail-in voting.

                                  Otherwise, let's say we allow only in-person voting and put only one polling station in each state, logically located where the population is most dense such that it is "shortest distance" for the most people to get there in person, and see how the country/rural folks like it.

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                                  Larry
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #41

                                  @Axtremus said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                                  @Jolly you put a lot of emphasis on "security" but virtually none on "access".

                                  Faith in the electoral system will also crumble if a large enough swath of the population cannot cast their votes.

                                  The logistical challenges of running an election with 76MM voters (1932), 120MM voters (1968), 182MM voters (1988), and 239MM voters (2020) are not the same. Transit technologies and infrastructure change over time and access to transportation change over time. War, natural disasters, and pandemics will necessitate changes from time to time.

                                  Want to get rid of mail-in voting? Fine, only when easy access to polling stations of sufficient vote processing capacities are available. Commit to guaranteeing that no one has to travel more than X miles to get to a polling station or wait more than Y minutes in line to cast a vote at a polling station, then we can talk about eliminating mail-in voting.

                                  Otherwise, let's say we allow only in-person voting and put only one polling station in each state, logically located where the population is most dense such that it is "shortest distance" for the most people to get there in person, and see how the country/rural folks like it.

                                  Oh for Pete's sake. Have you EVER had an original thought? You just repeat the democrat bull shit propaganda all the time. There is no problem with access.

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    Access means nothing, if nobody trusts the results.

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                                    xenon
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                                    @Jolly This Presidency is ending the same way as it started - accusations of voter fraud.

                                    He had 4 years and all the resources of the federal government to run that one down.

                                    He didn't. Without evidence, he has zero credibility here.

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                                    • X xenon

                                      @Jolly This Presidency is ending the same way as it started - accusations of voter fraud.

                                      He had 4 years and all the resources of the federal government to run that one down.

                                      He didn't. Without evidence, he has zero credibility here.

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                                      George K
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                                      @xenon said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                                      resources of the federal government

                                      They were busy investigating RUSSIA!!

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        You were warned.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                                          It's broken. There are millions of people who no longer trust the ballot box.

                                          You cannot put the genie back in the box.

                                          As I said Perhaps Trump’s biggest legacy.

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                                          @jon-nyc said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                                          @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                                          It's broken. There are millions of people who no longer trust the ballot box.

                                          You cannot put the genie back in the box.

                                          As I said Perhaps Trump’s biggest legacy.

                                          So convenient. But your hatred really was the first one.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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