Too Stupid to Organize Conference Calls
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wrote on 17 Apr 2020, 13:01 last edited by
You are counting the businesses that bought the right to use his brand and trying to hang their failure around his neck. You know better than that. He sold rights to his brand. He didn't start those businesses. Don't even try to tell me you didn't know that.
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wrote on 17 Apr 2020, 13:04 last edited by
Larry and Bernie Sanders agree about private equity.
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wrote on 17 Apr 2020, 13:05 last edited by jon-nyc
I imagine it takes a special kind of incompetence to bankrupt a casino.
New York State did it, sort of, with their off track betting business. In that case it was pure corruption.
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wrote on 17 Apr 2020, 13:06 last edited by
Just be intellectually honest, Jon. The baseless Trump bashing by using dishonest characterization of the facts is getting tiresome.
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wrote on 17 Apr 2020, 13:07 last edited by
I agree there is plenty of baseless Trump bashing but this doesn’t qualify. This is all literally true. Every single word.
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I imagine it takes a special kind of incompetence to bankrupt a casino.
New York State did it, sort of, with their off track betting business. In that case it was pure corruption.
wrote on 17 Apr 2020, 13:08 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Too Stupid to Organize Conference Calls:
I imagine it takes a special kind of incompetence to bankrupt a casino.
New York State did it, sort of, with their off track betting business. In that case it was pure corruption.
No it doesn't. All you have to do is build one in a town called Atlantic City and then have the entire fucking town collapse. Stop with your bull shit.
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I agree there is plenty of baseless Trump bashing but this doesn’t qualify. This is all literally true. Every single word.
wrote on 17 Apr 2020, 13:09 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Too Stupid to Organize Conference Calls:
I agree there is plenty of baseless Trump bashing but this doesn’t qualify. This is all literally true. Every single word.
And so is he is President of the US which Hillary can’t say and neither can Mitt and we will see about Biden.
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I agree there is plenty of baseless Trump bashing but this doesn’t qualify. This is all literally true. Every single word.
wrote on 17 Apr 2020, 13:10 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Too Stupid to Organize Conference Calls:
I agree there is plenty of baseless Trump bashing but this doesn’t qualify. This is all literally true. Every single word.
No it's not. It's a dishonest twisting of the facts, and you know it.
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wrote on 17 Apr 2020, 13:12 last edited by
You can get away with shit like that when you're talking to left leaning bobble heads, Jon. They don't know how business works. I do.
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wrote on 17 Apr 2020, 13:13 last edited by
You and Bernie, experts on private equity.
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wrote on 17 Apr 2020, 13:15 last edited by
Compared to the loony Left who will swallow your line of "logic" on this issue, yes, I am an expert on private equity.
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wrote on 17 Apr 2020, 13:17 last edited by
The loony left is entirely in agreement with you on private equity.
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wrote on 17 Apr 2020, 13:24 last edited by
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wrote on 17 Apr 2020, 13:27 last edited by
She's correct. The problem is, she's too damned stupid to know why she's correct, and her solution to the problem is as stupid as she is.
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wrote on 17 Apr 2020, 13:55 last edited by Jolly
Romney made a fortune saddling companies with debt, extracting millions of dollars in fees telling them who to fire, to try to finance and pay off the debt he helped create. Romney could have played Gordon Gekko.
Most of Romney's money was never made in venture capital, although he did have a large hand in getting Staples off the ground.
Trump certainly has his failures and bankrupt companies.
But the difference I see, is that Trump had failures while trying to build something and Mitt made most of his money by tearing things apart.
And then Romney has his Profiles in Courage moment, in a combination of pique and national political aspiration, disregarding what his constituents told him and hurting his party.
If you want to die on Romney Hill, jon, I'll be happy to lob the Truth grenades your way.
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wrote on 17 Apr 2020, 14:11 last edited by
Private equity is Schumpeterian creative destruction in its purest form. Like all economic dynamism, it has short term losers and winners but the economy is better for it in the long term. AOC, Sanders, and Larry can zoom in on the losers and declare it a failure, but calmer heads will zoom out and look at the big picture.
Of course not all private equity turn-arounds succeed. But there's a market test for the firms that do it, they need to be able to finance it. It's an iterative game.
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Always the last refuge. But it’s a telling one. It means ‘I have no substantive reply to your current argument’.
You might think it’s a mic drop but it’s really a retreat.
wrote on 17 Apr 2020, 14:16 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Too Stupid to Organize Conference Calls:
Always the last refuge. But it’s a telling one. It means ‘I have no substantive reply to your current argument’.
You might think it’s a mic drop but it’s really a retreat.
On what planet would you have voted for Mitt since you referenced him with such great reverence?
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wrote on 17 Apr 2020, 14:21 last edited by jon-nyc
Oh, I've said this repeatedly. I really really really wish he had won in 2012. With hindsight, obviously (I voted for Obama). Nothing good came out of Obama's second term, and a Romney presidency would have saved us from Trump.
But that's really beside the point here.