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  • LarryL Offline
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    Larry
    wrote on last edited by
    #15

    You are counting the businesses that bought the right to use his brand and trying to hang their failure around his neck. You know better than that. He sold rights to his brand. He didn't start those businesses. Don't even try to tell me you didn't know that.

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      jon-nyc
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      #16

      Larry and Bernie Sanders agree about private equity.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        #17

        I imagine it takes a special kind of incompetence to bankrupt a casino.

        New York State did it, sort of, with their off track betting business. In that case it was pure corruption.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          Larry
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          #18

          Just be intellectually honest, Jon. The baseless Trump bashing by using dishonest characterization of the facts is getting tiresome.

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
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            #19

            I agree there is plenty of baseless Trump bashing but this doesn’t qualify. This is all literally true. Every single word.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              I imagine it takes a special kind of incompetence to bankrupt a casino.

              New York State did it, sort of, with their off track betting business. In that case it was pure corruption.

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              Larry
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              #20

              @jon-nyc said in Too Stupid to Organize Conference Calls:

              I imagine it takes a special kind of incompetence to bankrupt a casino.

              New York State did it, sort of, with their off track betting business. In that case it was pure corruption.

              No it doesn't. All you have to do is build one in a town called Atlantic City and then have the entire fucking town collapse. Stop with your bull shit.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                I agree there is plenty of baseless Trump bashing but this doesn’t qualify. This is all literally true. Every single word.

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                Loki
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                @jon-nyc said in Too Stupid to Organize Conference Calls:

                I agree there is plenty of baseless Trump bashing but this doesn’t qualify. This is all literally true. Every single word.

                And so is he is President of the US which Hillary can’t say and neither can Mitt and we will see about Biden.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  I agree there is plenty of baseless Trump bashing but this doesn’t qualify. This is all literally true. Every single word.

                  LarryL Offline
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                  Larry
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                  #22

                  @jon-nyc said in Too Stupid to Organize Conference Calls:

                  I agree there is plenty of baseless Trump bashing but this doesn’t qualify. This is all literally true. Every single word.

                  No it's not. It's a dishonest twisting of the facts, and you know it.

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                    jon-nyc
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                    #23

                    @Loki

                    Always the last refuge. But it’s a telling one. It means ‘I have no substantive reply to your current argument’.

                    You might think it’s a mic drop but it’s really a retreat.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • LarryL Offline
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                      Larry
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                      #24

                      You can get away with shit like that when you're talking to left leaning bobble heads, Jon. They don't know how business works. I do.

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        jon-nyc
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                        #25

                        You and Bernie, experts on private equity.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • LarryL Offline
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                          Compared to the loony Left who will swallow your line of "logic" on this issue, yes, I am an expert on private equity.

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                            jon-nyc
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                            The loony left is entirely in agreement with you on private equity.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              https://www.thestreet.com/opinion/mitt-romney-job-creator-or-corporate-raider-11581069

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                                https://www.thestreet.com/opinion/mitt-romney-job-creator-or-corporate-raider-11581069

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                                jon-nyc
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                                @Larry said in Too Stupid to Organize Conference Calls:

                                https://www.thestreet.com/opinion/mitt-romney-job-creator-or-corporate-raider-11581069

                                https://www.businessinsider.com/aoc-makes-devastating-case-against-private-equity-at-house-hearing-2019-11

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  She's correct. The problem is, she's too damned stupid to know why she's correct, and her solution to the problem is as stupid as she is.

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                                    Jolly
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                                    #31

                                    Romney made a fortune saddling companies with debt, extracting millions of dollars in fees telling them who to fire, to try to finance and pay off the debt he helped create. Romney could have played Gordon Gekko.

                                    Most of Romney's money was never made in venture capital, although he did have a large hand in getting Staples off the ground.

                                    Trump certainly has his failures and bankrupt companies.

                                    But the difference I see, is that Trump had failures while trying to build something and Mitt made most of his money by tearing things apart.

                                    And then Romney has his Profiles in Courage moment, in a combination of pique and national political aspiration, disregarding what his constituents told him and hurting his party.

                                    If you want to die on Romney Hill, jon, I'll be happy to lob the Truth grenades your way.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      Private equity is Schumpeterian creative destruction in its purest form. Like all economic dynamism, it has short term losers and winners but the economy is better for it in the long term. AOC, Sanders, and Larry can zoom in on the losers and declare it a failure, but calmer heads will zoom out and look at the big picture.

                                      Of course not all private equity turn-arounds succeed. But there's a market test for the firms that do it, they need to be able to finance it. It's an iterative game.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        @Loki

                                        Always the last refuge. But it’s a telling one. It means ‘I have no substantive reply to your current argument’.

                                        You might think it’s a mic drop but it’s really a retreat.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Too Stupid to Organize Conference Calls:

                                        @Loki

                                        Always the last refuge. But it’s a telling one. It means ‘I have no substantive reply to your current argument’.

                                        You might think it’s a mic drop but it’s really a retreat.

                                        On what planet would you have voted for Mitt since you referenced him with such great reverence?

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          #34

                                          Oh, I've said this repeatedly. I really really really wish he had won in 2012. With hindsight, obviously (I voted for Obama). Nothing good came out of Obama's second term, and a Romney presidency would have saved us from Trump.

                                          But that's really beside the point here.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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