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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    I agree there is plenty of baseless Trump bashing but this doesn’t qualify. This is all literally true. Every single word.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      I imagine it takes a special kind of incompetence to bankrupt a casino.

      New York State did it, sort of, with their off track betting business. In that case it was pure corruption.

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      Larry
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      @jon-nyc said in Too Stupid to Organize Conference Calls:

      I imagine it takes a special kind of incompetence to bankrupt a casino.

      New York State did it, sort of, with their off track betting business. In that case it was pure corruption.

      No it doesn't. All you have to do is build one in a town called Atlantic City and then have the entire fucking town collapse. Stop with your bull shit.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        I agree there is plenty of baseless Trump bashing but this doesn’t qualify. This is all literally true. Every single word.

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        @jon-nyc said in Too Stupid to Organize Conference Calls:

        I agree there is plenty of baseless Trump bashing but this doesn’t qualify. This is all literally true. Every single word.

        And so is he is President of the US which Hillary can’t say and neither can Mitt and we will see about Biden.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          I agree there is plenty of baseless Trump bashing but this doesn’t qualify. This is all literally true. Every single word.

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          Larry
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          #22

          @jon-nyc said in Too Stupid to Organize Conference Calls:

          I agree there is plenty of baseless Trump bashing but this doesn’t qualify. This is all literally true. Every single word.

          No it's not. It's a dishonest twisting of the facts, and you know it.

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            #23

            @Loki

            Always the last refuge. But it’s a telling one. It means ‘I have no substantive reply to your current argument’.

            You might think it’s a mic drop but it’s really a retreat.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              Larry
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              You can get away with shit like that when you're talking to left leaning bobble heads, Jon. They don't know how business works. I do.

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                jon-nyc
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                #25

                You and Bernie, experts on private equity.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                  Larry
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                  Compared to the loony Left who will swallow your line of "logic" on this issue, yes, I am an expert on private equity.

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                    jon-nyc
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                    The loony left is entirely in agreement with you on private equity.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      https://www.thestreet.com/opinion/mitt-romney-job-creator-or-corporate-raider-11581069

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                        https://www.thestreet.com/opinion/mitt-romney-job-creator-or-corporate-raider-11581069

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                        jon-nyc
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                        #29

                        @Larry said in Too Stupid to Organize Conference Calls:

                        https://www.thestreet.com/opinion/mitt-romney-job-creator-or-corporate-raider-11581069

                        https://www.businessinsider.com/aoc-makes-devastating-case-against-private-equity-at-house-hearing-2019-11

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          She's correct. The problem is, she's too damned stupid to know why she's correct, and her solution to the problem is as stupid as she is.

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                            #31

                            Romney made a fortune saddling companies with debt, extracting millions of dollars in fees telling them who to fire, to try to finance and pay off the debt he helped create. Romney could have played Gordon Gekko.

                            Most of Romney's money was never made in venture capital, although he did have a large hand in getting Staples off the ground.

                            Trump certainly has his failures and bankrupt companies.

                            But the difference I see, is that Trump had failures while trying to build something and Mitt made most of his money by tearing things apart.

                            And then Romney has his Profiles in Courage moment, in a combination of pique and national political aspiration, disregarding what his constituents told him and hurting his party.

                            If you want to die on Romney Hill, jon, I'll be happy to lob the Truth grenades your way.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Private equity is Schumpeterian creative destruction in its purest form. Like all economic dynamism, it has short term losers and winners but the economy is better for it in the long term. AOC, Sanders, and Larry can zoom in on the losers and declare it a failure, but calmer heads will zoom out and look at the big picture.

                              Of course not all private equity turn-arounds succeed. But there's a market test for the firms that do it, they need to be able to finance it. It's an iterative game.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                @Loki

                                Always the last refuge. But it’s a telling one. It means ‘I have no substantive reply to your current argument’.

                                You might think it’s a mic drop but it’s really a retreat.

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                                @jon-nyc said in Too Stupid to Organize Conference Calls:

                                @Loki

                                Always the last refuge. But it’s a telling one. It means ‘I have no substantive reply to your current argument’.

                                You might think it’s a mic drop but it’s really a retreat.

                                On what planet would you have voted for Mitt since you referenced him with such great reverence?

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                                  #34

                                  Oh, I've said this repeatedly. I really really really wish he had won in 2012. With hindsight, obviously (I voted for Obama). Nothing good came out of Obama's second term, and a Romney presidency would have saved us from Trump.

                                  But that's really beside the point here.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    I remember when Mitt Romney was awesome and was going to put America back on track, and anybody who said he was a vulture capitalist was a brain dead libtard.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      #36

                                      You mean the way you zoom in on Trump in order to bash him instead of zooming out to look at the bigger picture?

                                      I never said all turnarounds were a bad thing. My point was that you cherry picked and exaggerated negatives in order to bash Trump while cherry picking and downplaying negatives in order to build up Romney - something you only did so you could bash Trump some more.

                                      You were being dishonest, and I called you on it.

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                                        One day when you grow up you'll realize that Trump's presidency is the best thing that ever happened to this country in your lifetime.

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                                          #38

                                          Anecdote: I’ve worked on several PE deals. A handful even went through to completion.

                                          All of those companies have grown like gangbusters and hired to accommodate.

                                          PE is not a bogeyman. It’s an alternate vehicle to the public markets and LPs include regulars retirement funds and investors.

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