Calling the States
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:24 last edited by
Looks like Fox is disabling some of their odd meters.
Major fail overall for them.
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:25 last edited by
Fox just called AZ for Biden. that's interesting
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:26 last edited by
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@Loki said in Calling the States:
@jon-nyc said in Calling the States:
But my question stands -
Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?
GOP for sure but if Trump wins can you ever read Nate Silver with a straight face again? It would be like reading the manifesto of a dangerous mind.
Obviously they lean GOP. But is that all they got? Or do they do it intelligently so there are not too many false positives? Nate says they've got a 75% record which is kind of poor.
Also, see my reply to Jolly.
wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:28 last edited byI know Nate isn’t a pollster but he has a loud voice. I thought he understood and am a fan for the moment.
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@Jolly said in Calling the States:
@jon-nyc said in Calling the States:
I'm calling it for Trump.
I think you're too early.
You're right. They've always said election night would look good for Trump then mail in ballots would push things the other way.
We won't really know what happened for a day or two at least. It could come down to those little orphan districts in NE and ME.
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:42 last edited by
Scenario:
Trump gets PA, OH. Biden gets WI MI. Then Biden only needs one of the tossup NE/ME house districts to get to 270.
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:43 last edited by
Remember, PA, MI, WI have only reported in-person ballots so far.
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:49 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Calling the States:
Remember, PA, MI, WI have only reported in-person ballots so far.
Yeah, I’m thinking Arizona sunk Trump. Michigan will bear some watching, but...
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:52 last edited by
Although in fairness only Fox has called it.
But FWIW Nate was in awe at some Maricopa county in-person results that boded poorly for the president.
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:55 last edited by Klaus 11 Apr 2020, 04:56
Waking up in the middle of the night to check who won and all I see is confusion and uncertainty.
What’s so hard about counting votes?
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:56 last edited by
Texas to Trump.
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 04:59 last edited by jon-nyc 11 Apr 2020, 05:00
1 The votes aren't even in yet, at least not everywhere.
2 Here all this shit is handled at the local level, and many jurisdictions simply didn't prepare for much larger mail-in and early voting, for reasons both banal and benign.
3 In many places, the GOP has fought to make it hard. Their pros know they're a minority party.
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 05:02 last edited by
So I understand right now it looks better for Trump than predicted by the polls but overall it’s still very open. Is that about it?
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 05:03 last edited by
THat's a good summary.
It'll be a nail-biter.
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 05:08 last edited by
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So I understand right now it looks better for Trump than predicted by the polls but overall it’s still very open. Is that about it?
wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 05:10 last edited by Loki 11 Apr 2020, 05:10@Klaus said in Calling the States:
So I understand right now it looks better for Trump than predicted by the polls but overall it’s still very open. Is that about it?
Yup. Arizona is Biden. It’s down to PA, Michigan and Wisconsin. Betting odds are 60/40 Trump
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 05:11 last edited by
It looks like neither the House or Senate will change majorities.
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wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 05:17 last edited by
I do not like this stopping the count in Fulton County until morning.
