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Calling the States

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by
    #59

    Looks like Fox is disabling some of their odd meters.

    Major fail overall for them.

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    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      jon-nyc
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      #60

      Fox just called AZ for Biden. that's interesting

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • MikM Away
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        Mik
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        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          @Loki said in Calling the States:

          @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

          But my question stands -

          Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?

          GOP for sure but if Trump wins can you ever read Nate Silver with a straight face again? It would be like reading the manifesto of a dangerous mind.

          Obviously they lean GOP. But is that all they got? Or do they do it intelligently so there are not too many false positives? Nate says they've got a 75% record which is kind of poor.

          Also, see my reply to Jolly.

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          Loki
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          #62

          I know Nate isn’t a pollster but he has a loud voice. I thought he understood and am a fan for the moment.

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
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            #63

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            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              jon-nyc
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              #64

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                I'm calling it for Trump.

                I think you're too early.

                jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
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                #65

                @Jolly said in Calling the States:

                @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                I'm calling it for Trump.

                I think you're too early.

                You're right. They've always said election night would look good for Trump then mail in ballots would push things the other way.

                We won't really know what happened for a day or two at least. It could come down to those little orphan districts in NE and ME.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #66

                  Scenario:

                  Trump gets PA, OH. Biden gets WI MI. Then Biden only needs one of the tossup NE/ME house districts to get to 270.

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                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    jon-nyc
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                    #67

                    Remember, PA, MI, WI have only reported in-person ballots so far.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Remember, PA, MI, WI have only reported in-person ballots so far.

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #68

                      @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                      Remember, PA, MI, WI have only reported in-person ballots so far.

                      Yeah, I’m thinking Arizona sunk Trump. Michigan will bear some watching, but...

                      The Brad

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #69

                        Although in fairness only Fox has called it.

                        But FWIW Nate was in awe at some Maricopa county in-person results that boded poorly for the president.

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                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • KlausK Online
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                          Klaus
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                          #70

                          Waking up in the middle of the night to check who won and all I see is confusion and uncertainty.

                          What’s so hard about counting votes?

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                            #71

                            Texas to Trump.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • jon-nycJ Online
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                              jon-nyc
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                              #72

                              @Klaus

                              1 The votes aren't even in yet, at least not everywhere.

                              2 Here all this shit is handled at the local level, and many jurisdictions simply didn't prepare for much larger mail-in and early voting, for reasons both banal and benign.

                              3 In many places, the GOP has fought to make it hard. Their pros know they're a minority party.

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                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • KlausK Online
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                                Klaus
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                                So I understand right now it looks better for Trump than predicted by the polls but overall it’s still very open. Is that about it?

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #74

                                  THat's a good summary.

                                  It'll be a nail-biter.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    • KlausK Klaus

                                      So I understand right now it looks better for Trump than predicted by the polls but overall it’s still very open. Is that about it?

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                                      Loki
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                                      #76

                                      @Klaus said in Calling the States:

                                      So I understand right now it looks better for Trump than predicted by the polls but overall it’s still very open. Is that about it?

                                      Yup. Arizona is Biden. It’s down to PA, Michigan and Wisconsin. Betting odds are 60/40 Trump

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                                      • MikM Away
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                                        Mik
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                                        It looks like neither the House or Senate will change majorities.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • MikM Away
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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          I do not like this stopping the count in Fulton County until morning.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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