Calling the States

[Loki]

@jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

But my question stands -

Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?

GOP for sure but if Trump wins can you ever read Nate Silver with a straight face again? It would be like reading the manifesto of a dangerous mind.

[jon-nyc]

@LuFins-Dad said in Calling the States:

Don’t know... But their numbers matched in 16 and they seem to be matching up this time pretty well...

What are their numbers? Other than FL.

[jon-nyc]

@Loki said in Calling the States:

@jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

But my question stands -

Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?

GOP for sure but if Trump wins can you ever read Nate Silver with a straight face again? It would be like reading the manifesto of a dangerous mind.

Obviously they lean GOP. But is that all they got? Or do they do it intelligently so there are not too many false positives? Nate says they've got a 75% record which is kind of poor.

Also, see my reply to Jolly.

[jon-nyc]

Looks like Fox is disabling some of their odd meters.

Major fail overall for them.

[jon-nyc]

Fox just called AZ for Biden. that's interesting

[Mik]

[Loki]

I know Nate isn’t a pollster but he has a loud voice. I thought he understood and am a fan for the moment.

[jon-nyc]

[jon-nyc]

[jon-nyc]

@Jolly said in Calling the States:

@jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

I'm calling it for Trump.

I think you're too early.

You're right. They've always said election night would look good for Trump then mail in ballots would push things the other way.

We won't really know what happened for a day or two at least. It could come down to those little orphan districts in NE and ME.

[jon-nyc]

Scenario:

Trump gets PA, OH. Biden gets WI MI. Then Biden only needs one of the tossup NE/ME house districts to get to 270.

[jon-nyc]

Remember, PA, MI, WI have only reported in-person ballots so far.

[LuFins Dad]

@jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

Remember, PA, MI, WI have only reported in-person ballots so far.

Yeah, I’m thinking Arizona sunk Trump. Michigan will bear some watching, but...

[jon-nyc]

Although in fairness only Fox has called it.

But FWIW Nate was in awe at some Maricopa county in-person results that boded poorly for the president.

[Klaus]

Waking up in the middle of the night to check who won and all I see is confusion and uncertainty.

What’s so hard about counting votes?

[Jolly]

Texas to Trump.

[jon-nyc]

@Klaus

1 The votes aren't even in yet, at least not everywhere.

2 Here all this shit is handled at the local level, and many jurisdictions simply didn't prepare for much larger mail-in and early voting, for reasons both banal and benign.

3 In many places, the GOP has fought to make it hard. Their pros know they're a minority party.

[Klaus]

So I understand right now it looks better for Trump than predicted by the polls but overall it’s still very open. Is that about it?

[jon-nyc]

THat's a good summary.

It'll be a nail-biter.

[jon-nyc]