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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by
    #53

    But my question stands -

    Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?

    You were warned.

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on last edited by
      #54

      Don’t know... But their numbers matched in 16 and they seem to be matching up this time pretty well...

      The Brad

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      • MikM Away
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        Mik
        wrote on last edited by
        #55

        I have found that I have been more interested in the House and Senate races. So far the GOP is doing really well it looks like. Collins, McConnell and Graham are all winners, and those were seats the Dems spent a LOT of money on. In House races they poured money in my district and the one next to it and are still losing.

        How are things going in your states' house/senate races?

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          But my question stands -

          Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?

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          Loki
          wrote on last edited by Loki
          #56

          @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

          But my question stands -

          Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?

          GOP for sure but if Trump wins can you ever read Nate Silver with a straight face again? It would be like reading the manifesto of a dangerous mind.

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            Don’t know... But their numbers matched in 16 and they seem to be matching up this time pretty well...

            jon-nycJ Online
            jon-nycJ Online
            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by
            #57

            @LuFins-Dad said in Calling the States:

            Don’t know... But their numbers matched in 16 and they seem to be matching up this time pretty well...

            What are their numbers? Other than FL.

            You were warned.

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            • L Loki

              @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

              But my question stands -

              Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?

              GOP for sure but if Trump wins can you ever read Nate Silver with a straight face again? It would be like reading the manifesto of a dangerous mind.

              jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
              #58

              @Loki said in Calling the States:

              @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

              But my question stands -

              Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?

              GOP for sure but if Trump wins can you ever read Nate Silver with a straight face again? It would be like reading the manifesto of a dangerous mind.

              Obviously they lean GOP. But is that all they got? Or do they do it intelligently so there are not too many false positives? Nate says they've got a 75% record which is kind of poor.

              Also, see my reply to Jolly.

              You were warned.

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by
                #59

                Looks like Fox is disabling some of their odd meters.

                Major fail overall for them.

                Screen Shot 2020-11-03 at 11.22.41 PM.png

                You were warned.

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                • jon-nycJ Online
                  jon-nycJ Online
                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #60

                  Fox just called AZ for Biden. that's interesting

                  You were warned.

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                  • MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
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                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      @Loki said in Calling the States:

                      @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                      But my question stands -

                      Does Trafalgar really have the special sauce? Or do they lean Republican so if you only look at how they did during republican upsets they look prescient?

                      GOP for sure but if Trump wins can you ever read Nate Silver with a straight face again? It would be like reading the manifesto of a dangerous mind.

                      Obviously they lean GOP. But is that all they got? Or do they do it intelligently so there are not too many false positives? Nate says they've got a 75% record which is kind of poor.

                      Also, see my reply to Jolly.

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                      Loki
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                      #62

                      I know Nate isn’t a pollster but he has a loud voice. I thought he understood and am a fan for the moment.

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
                        jon-nycJ Online
                        jon-nyc
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                        #63

                        Screen Shot 2020-11-03 at 11.28.43 PM.png

                        You were warned.

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
                          jon-nycJ Online
                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #64

                          You were warned.

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                            I'm calling it for Trump.

                            I think you're too early.

                            jon-nycJ Online
                            jon-nycJ Online
                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #65

                            @Jolly said in Calling the States:

                            @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                            I'm calling it for Trump.

                            I think you're too early.

                            You're right. They've always said election night would look good for Trump then mail in ballots would push things the other way.

                            We won't really know what happened for a day or two at least. It could come down to those little orphan districts in NE and ME.

                            You were warned.

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                            • jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #66

                              Scenario:

                              Trump gets PA, OH. Biden gets WI MI. Then Biden only needs one of the tossup NE/ME house districts to get to 270.

                              You were warned.

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                              • jon-nycJ Online
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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #67

                                Remember, PA, MI, WI have only reported in-person ballots so far.

                                You were warned.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  Remember, PA, MI, WI have only reported in-person ballots so far.

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on last edited by
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                                  @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                                  Remember, PA, MI, WI have only reported in-person ballots so far.

                                  Yeah, I’m thinking Arizona sunk Trump. Michigan will bear some watching, but...

                                  The Brad

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                                  • jon-nycJ Online
                                    jon-nycJ Online
                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #69

                                    Although in fairness only Fox has called it.

                                    But FWIW Nate was in awe at some Maricopa county in-person results that boded poorly for the president.

                                    You were warned.

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                                      Klaus
                                      wrote on last edited by Klaus
                                      #70

                                      Waking up in the middle of the night to check who won and all I see is confusion and uncertainty.

                                      What’s so hard about counting votes?

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                                      • JollyJ Offline
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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #71

                                        Texas to Trump.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                          #72

                                          @Klaus

                                          1 The votes aren't even in yet, at least not everywhere.

                                          2 Here all this shit is handled at the local level, and many jurisdictions simply didn't prepare for much larger mail-in and early voting, for reasons both banal and benign.

                                          3 In many places, the GOP has fought to make it hard. Their pros know they're a minority party.

                                          You were warned.

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