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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by
    #235

    This shows what’s happening in PA and AZ as they keep counting.

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    You were warned.

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    • 89th8 Offline
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      89th
      wrote on last edited by
      #236

      Cool visuals.

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      • LarryL Larry

        @Mik said in Calling the States:

        Give it a rest. There is no mandate to pursue that agenda - far from it. If they try they will get slaughtered in 2022.

        I'm not talking about the politicians. I'm talking about the voting public. I've lost faith in the American public.

        89th8 Offline
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        89th
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        #237

        @Larry said in Calling the States:

        @Mik said in Calling the States:

        Give it a rest. There is no mandate to pursue that agenda - far from it. If they try they will get slaughtered in 2022.

        I'm not talking about the politicians. I'm talking about the voting public. I've lost faith in the American public.

        I tried warning you!

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        • NunataxN Offline
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          Nunatax
          wrote on last edited by
          #238

          Quite an election you guys have going on this year. Whoever finally wins, I hope everything will quiet down quickly.

          Quite a lot of media coverage on this locally here (that's the understatement of the day...). Especially a lot of disbelief about Trump's very early victory claim and his claim of massive voter fraud via the postal voting.

          What exactly is the allegation here? I don't know enough about it, but from what I've read the postal votes are tracked through unique barcodes and signatures (which must match a signature obtained when the voter registered or something?). Does such a ballot form contain personal information (i.e. could one identify who filled out the form based on what's on it)? I would assume that that's possible, as it's similarly possible to identify who made a certain vote on an electronic voting machine if one would put in the effort to put all pieces of the puzzle together. It should also be possible in that way to check that the list of people who voted are all people with a legal right to vote in that state (and as well check that no dead people have voted for instance...).

          So what is this massive fraud that Trump claims is happening? Would someone be generating Biden votes from registered voters that did not actually vote in this election? Surely, however the suggested fraud is being committed, if fraud like that would be happening on the massive scale that it would need to be happening according to Trump, there would be so many people involved that at some point this would leak and get reported?

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by George K
            #239

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            According to Ballotpedia, no American state in the period 2002-2018 has ever achieved a turnout rate of 80% or higher.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • Doctor PhibesD Online
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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on last edited by
              #240

              That guy needs to go on a statistics course before he starts throwing around words like "standard deviations" and "statistical impossibility".

              This isn't a random process. If you make it much easier for people to vote, you shouldn't be surprised if a lot more people vote.

              I was only joking

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                #241

                @George-K - the state of Wisconsin puts their turnout at 71%, which is less than 2004.

                The reason is WI uses same day registration, and it is quite popular.

                So they measure 'turnout' by % of voting age population. It's worth noting that the very graph you posted is using WI data and calc method (%voting age population) for all of the data points except the last one.

                https://elections.wi.gov/elections-voting/statistics/turnout

                You were warned.

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #242

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                  You were warned.

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                  • AxtremusA Away
                    AxtremusA Away
                    Axtremus
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                    #243

                    As it is, Biden/Harris already got well over three and a half million popular votes more than Trump/Pence. The majority of voters do prefer Biden/Harris.

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      #244

                      Trump claimed he only lost the popular vote in 2016 due to fraud.

                      He was a sore winner as well as a sore loser.

                      I was only joking

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @George-K - the state of Wisconsin puts their turnout at 71%, which is less than 2004.

                        The reason is WI uses same day registration, and it is quite popular.

                        So they measure 'turnout' by % of voting age population. It's worth noting that the very graph you posted is using WI data and calc method (%voting age population) for all of the data points except the last one.

                        https://elections.wi.gov/elections-voting/statistics/turnout

                        George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #245

                        @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                        The reason is WI uses same day registration, and it is quite popular.

                        I wonder if the voters who registered on election day account for this:

                        https://mkecitywire.com/stories/564495243-analysis-seven-milwaukee-wards-report-more-2020-presidential-votes-than-registered-voters-biden-nets-146k-votes-in-city

                        Screen Shot 2020-11-05 at 6.53.11 AM.png

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • jon-nycJ Offline
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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                          #246

                          Sweet Georgia.

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                          You were warned.

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                          • George KG George K

                            @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                            The reason is WI uses same day registration, and it is quite popular.

                            I wonder if the voters who registered on election day account for this:

                            https://mkecitywire.com/stories/564495243-analysis-seven-milwaukee-wards-report-more-2020-presidential-votes-than-registered-voters-biden-nets-146k-votes-in-city

                            Screen Shot 2020-11-05 at 6.53.11 AM.png

                            JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
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                            #247

                            @George-K said in Calling the States:

                            @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                            The reason is WI uses same day registration, and it is quite popular.

                            I wonder if the voters who registered on election day account for this:

                            https://mkecitywire.com/stories/564495243-analysis-seven-milwaukee-wards-report-more-2020-presidential-votes-than-registered-voters-biden-nets-146k-votes-in-city

                            Screen Shot 2020-11-05 at 6.53.11 AM.png

                            It's their state, but nobody should be allowed to register on election day.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • LuFins DadL Offline
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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #248

                              It’s perfectly legitimate to ask to see those registrations....

                              The Brad

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                              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on last edited by LuFins Dad
                                #249

                                What’s scarier than the Walking Dead? The Voting Dead

                                The Brad

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                                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #250

                                  https://mobile.twitter.com/fleccas/status/1324216584219623424/photo/1?ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftownhall.com%2Fliveblog%2F2020%2F11%2F03%2F2020-election-live-blog-n195

                                  The Brad

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                                  • 89th8 Offline
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                                    89th
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #251

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                                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #252

                                      George - where did you get that info?

                                      This is from county.milwaukee.gov:

                                      You can't see the heading, but the first number is Biden second is Trump:

                                      Screen Shot 2020-11-05 at 9.03.48 AM.png

                                      Same site, registration vs votes cast:

                                      Screen Shot 2020-11-05 at 9.05.28 AM.png

                                      Interestingly I found a file from the Wisconsin elections site from 11/1 showing registrations by ward and the numbers were already higher than the ones in your graphic. And that obviously can't include same-day registrations.

                                      You were warned.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        George - where did you get that info?

                                        This is from county.milwaukee.gov:

                                        You can't see the heading, but the first number is Biden second is Trump:

                                        Screen Shot 2020-11-05 at 9.03.48 AM.png

                                        Same site, registration vs votes cast:

                                        Screen Shot 2020-11-05 at 9.05.28 AM.png

                                        Interestingly I found a file from the Wisconsin elections site from 11/1 showing registrations by ward and the numbers were already higher than the ones in your graphic. And that obviously can't include same-day registrations.

                                        George KG Offline
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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #253

                                        @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                                        George - where did you get that info?

                                        Kimberly Strassel tweeted it. Here's the link she tweeted (it was in my post as well). I know nothing of this source, or it's reliability, btw.

                                        https://mkecitywire.com/stories/564495243-analysis-seven-milwaukee-wards-report-more-2020-presidential-votes-than-registered-voters-biden-nets-146k-votes-in-city

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                                        LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
                                        • jon-nycJ Offline
                                          jon-nycJ Offline
                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #254

                                          Maybe I'll send her the links to the official sources so she can publish a correction.

                                          You were warned.

                                          George KG 1 Reply Last reply
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