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    George K
    wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 10:29 last edited by George K 11 May 2020, 10:31
    #239

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    According to Ballotpedia, no American state in the period 2002-2018 has ever achieved a turnout rate of 80% or higher.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 11:07 last edited by
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      That guy needs to go on a statistics course before he starts throwing around words like "standard deviations" and "statistical impossibility".

      This isn't a random process. If you make it much easier for people to vote, you shouldn't be surprised if a lot more people vote.

      I was only joking

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 11:35 last edited by jon-nyc 11 May 2020, 11:41
        #241

        @George-K - the state of Wisconsin puts their turnout at 71%, which is less than 2004.

        The reason is WI uses same day registration, and it is quite popular.

        So they measure 'turnout' by % of voting age population. It's worth noting that the very graph you posted is using WI data and calc method (%voting age population) for all of the data points except the last one.

        https://elections.wi.gov/elections-voting/statistics/turnout

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 11:40 last edited by
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          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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            Axtremus
            wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 12:08 last edited by
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            As it is, Biden/Harris already got well over three and a half million popular votes more than Trump/Pence. The majority of voters do prefer Biden/Harris.

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 12:11 last edited by
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              Trump claimed he only lost the popular vote in 2016 due to fraud.

              He was a sore winner as well as a sore loser.

              I was only joking

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                5 Nov 2020, 11:35

                @George-K - the state of Wisconsin puts their turnout at 71%, which is less than 2004.

                The reason is WI uses same day registration, and it is quite popular.

                So they measure 'turnout' by % of voting age population. It's worth noting that the very graph you posted is using WI data and calc method (%voting age population) for all of the data points except the last one.

                https://elections.wi.gov/elections-voting/statistics/turnout

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                George K
                wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 12:53 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                The reason is WI uses same day registration, and it is quite popular.

                I wonder if the voters who registered on election day account for this:

                https://mkecitywire.com/stories/564495243-analysis-seven-milwaukee-wards-report-more-2020-presidential-votes-than-registered-voters-biden-nets-146k-votes-in-city

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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 12:57 last edited by jon-nyc 11 May 2020, 12:57
                  #246

                  Sweet Georgia.

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                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • G George K
                    5 Nov 2020, 12:53

                    @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                    The reason is WI uses same day registration, and it is quite popular.

                    I wonder if the voters who registered on election day account for this:

                    https://mkecitywire.com/stories/564495243-analysis-seven-milwaukee-wards-report-more-2020-presidential-votes-than-registered-voters-biden-nets-146k-votes-in-city

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 13:01 last edited by
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                    @George-K said in Calling the States:

                    @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                    The reason is WI uses same day registration, and it is quite popular.

                    I wonder if the voters who registered on election day account for this:

                    https://mkecitywire.com/stories/564495243-analysis-seven-milwaukee-wards-report-more-2020-presidential-votes-than-registered-voters-biden-nets-146k-votes-in-city

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                    It's their state, but nobody should be allowed to register on election day.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 13:17 last edited by
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                      It’s perfectly legitimate to ask to see those registrations....

                      The Brad

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 13:47 last edited by LuFins Dad 11 May 2020, 13:49
                        #249

                        What’s scarier than the Walking Dead? The Voting Dead

                        The Brad

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 13:50 last edited by
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                            89th
                            wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 13:50 last edited by
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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 14:07 last edited by
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                              George - where did you get that info?

                              This is from county.milwaukee.gov:

                              You can't see the heading, but the first number is Biden second is Trump:

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                              Same site, registration vs votes cast:

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                              Interestingly I found a file from the Wisconsin elections site from 11/1 showing registrations by ward and the numbers were already higher than the ones in your graphic. And that obviously can't include same-day registrations.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                              • J jon-nyc
                                5 Nov 2020, 14:07

                                George - where did you get that info?

                                This is from county.milwaukee.gov:

                                You can't see the heading, but the first number is Biden second is Trump:

                                Screen Shot 2020-11-05 at 9.03.48 AM.png

                                Same site, registration vs votes cast:

                                Screen Shot 2020-11-05 at 9.05.28 AM.png

                                Interestingly I found a file from the Wisconsin elections site from 11/1 showing registrations by ward and the numbers were already higher than the ones in your graphic. And that obviously can't include same-day registrations.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 14:10 last edited by
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                                @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                                George - where did you get that info?

                                Kimberly Strassel tweeted it. Here's the link she tweeted (it was in my post as well). I know nothing of this source, or it's reliability, btw.

                                https://mkecitywire.com/stories/564495243-analysis-seven-milwaukee-wards-report-more-2020-presidential-votes-than-registered-voters-biden-nets-146k-votes-in-city

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 14:16 last edited by
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                                  Maybe I'll send her the links to the official sources so she can publish a correction.

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                    5 Nov 2020, 14:16

                                    Maybe I'll send her the links to the official sources so she can publish a correction.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 14:16 last edited by
                                    #255

                                    @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                                    Maybe I'll send her the links to the official sources so she can publish a correction.

                                    That would be interesting.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 14:17 last edited by jon-nyc 11 May 2020, 14:17
                                      #256

                                      It was tongue in cheek. She's not a truth seeker.

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 14:21 last edited by
                                        #257

                                        Her source was a Milwaukee Newspaper. I followed the links earlier.

                                        The Brad

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                                        • J jon-nyc
                                          5 Nov 2020, 14:17

                                          It was tongue in cheek. She's not a truth seeker.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 5 Nov 2020, 14:24 last edited by
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                                          @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                                          It was tongue in cheek. She's not a truth seeker.

                                          Do it anyway!

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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